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No “No” Campaign = No “Yes” Campaign

Thu 13 January 2011, 8:18am

In the run up to the March 3rd referendum things are getting a little strange here.
Carwyn indicates the dangers.

….It is up to the Electoral Commission to designate an official Yes and No campaign, but both must pass a series of tests before they can reach that status and get access to £70,000 to organise their campaigns..
Under the rules, the commission has to designate an official campaign group from each side, or none at all.
Speaking at first minister’s questions in the Welsh assembly, Mr Jones said: “There is, I think, a severe danger that there won’t be a properly constituted No campaign.
“That, of course, means there can’t be an official Yes campaign given the strange rules that are in operation for this referendum.

The £70k is largely a red herring as public expenditure must be administration only (rent, phones, toner cartridges and some staff costs) – and there’s only so much of that you can spend in a month. However official status gives:
1) A television broadcast and:
2) A Post Office mailing.
It is inevitable that the lack of these two would adversely hit turnout.
So what do the “No” people say?
From Golwg and translated here.

“If we are not appointed then the Yes Campaign will not either. That would not be disappointing for us, “said Len Gibbs of True Wales.
“We do not really see the need for status, all it will give us is a little money to … we do not want to waste money on leaflets distributed by the Royal Mail which will only be put in the bin without being read anyway.

Interesting that True Wales think that people would throw their leaflets in the bin…..although they are right in this household!

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Comments (9)

  1. grahnat (profile) says:

    The No / Yes campaign in Wales is distorted by the fact that all 60 Assembly members are in favour of a yes vote. It is possible/probable that this is a payroll vote since members pay increases in accordance with increased resposibilities. More power, more responsibility = more pay!

    The consequence of all members being in favour is catastrophic for open and reasoned debate since those of us opposed to a failing and incompetent institution gaining more power to execrcise badly find it difficult to obtain media coverage.

    As to public funding [which is a disgrace] it pales into insignificance when compared to the funding of the yes side by (a) certain trade union(s) and £70k is but a drop in the ocean when compared with the unions benevolence. The unions receive funding for trainig and other activities which allows them to support this malignence.

    The only sensible vote is no.

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  2. Dewi (profile) says:

    “… those of us opposed to a failing and incompetent institution gaining more power to execrcise badly find it difficult to obtain media coverage.”
    The Media are desparate for No Campaign spokespeople. You ain’t getting your excuses in first are you?

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  3. oneill (profile) says:

    So, the taxpayer will be saved 140 grand?

    And the Welsh political establishment would be denied the possibility of telling the apathetic public how they are in full 100% agreement about something the majority of the electorate couldn’t care less about?

    Result, for everybody except that self-serving Establishment and their media buddies I’d say!

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  4. Dewi (profile) says:

    O’Neill don’t you think the No “case” should be presented to the people? Seriously, without public funds, the Yes campaign financial advantage will be pretty large I suspect.

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  5. oneill (profile) says:

    If their case is strong enough the public and journalists will seek it out with no extra cost to the taxpayer.

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  6. Drumlins Rock (profile) says:

    is this another super Thursday vote?

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  7. Dewi (profile) says:

    No – March 3 – on itself DR.

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  8. Cynic2 (profile) says:

    Lets just make it independent – preferably financially independent too

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  9. Cynic2 (profile) says:

    “No No Yes No …….”

    Your headline reminded me of:

    1 Vicky Pollard
    2 a Tom Elliott speech

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