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When two (Celtic) tribes go to war

Fri 17 December 2010, 12:14pm

The good relations that traditionally mark Irish-Welsh relations will be under strain this weekend as the homespun-talk-themselves-down Munster take on the brash-talk-themselves-up Ospreys in Saturdays crucial (rugby) Heineken Cup match.

Relations have been poor for a number of years since the Ospreys counter-cited Munster player Marcus Horan for racially abusing one of their players – a charge Munster angrily suggested was simply made up. Encounters between the teams are usually fiery and in keeping with this tradition, last weekend Munster’s captain Paul O’Connell was red carded and banned for striking an Ospreys player.

The poor relations are reflected in the fans websites where GwladRugby has built up a reputation for anti-Irishness which is then reported regularly (and with some bemusement) on the Munsterfans website. Refreshingly (and perhaps surprisingly to some) these poor relations contrast markedly with those between fans of Munster and the powerhouses of English rugby Leicester and Northampton et al.

So after Ulster dispose of Bath of England at 1.30 and before Leinster see off Clermont of France at 17.45 settle down in the safety of your living room for some good old traditional Celt on Celt fare at 15.30.

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  1. HeinzGuderian (profile) says:

    I’d rather watch snow melt !!!!!! ;-)

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  2. john (profile) says:

    Will try and watch as much of the rugby as possible. I think it could be a difficult day for the Irish teams tomorrow and would not be suprised if they all lost – I hope Im wrong

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  3. Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit (profile) says:

    john,

    “and would not be suprised if they all lost ”

    I agree. Probably 2 of them will lose, but dont know which 2, Munster perhaps can afford to lose but will then have to beat Toulon away. If Ulster or Leinster lose – it’s probably curtains.

    HeinzGuderian

    I’d rather watch snow melt !!!!!!

    That may well be on the agenda at Bath and Swansea.

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  4. JM (profile) says:

    “a charge Munster angrily suggested was simply made up.”

    Not just Munster came to that conclusion. The ERC did as well.
    Video evidence proved that the Osprey’s witness, Shane Williams couldn’t have heard the racist comments because he was no where in the vicinity to hear them!

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  5. Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit (profile) says:

    JM,

    “Video evidence proved that the Osprey’s witness, Shane Williams couldn’t have heard the racist comments because he was no where in the vicinity to hear them”

    Did that actually come out at the ERC Disciplinary hearing?

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