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		<title>By: Malcolm Redfellow</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2009/10/10/come-may-2010-the-most-important-labour-politician-in-britain-will-be/comment-page-1/#comment-351463</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm Redfellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Simon Dyda on @ 02:07 PM:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;To annoy the English, of course.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Fair enough; but that&#039;s not the most &lt;i&gt;demanding&lt;/i&gt; of sports, now is it? Nor is it a level playing field. I mean annoying the &lt;i&gt;English&lt;/i&gt;. Fish in a barrel stuff.

For some daft reason Gloucester in &lt;i&gt;King Lear&lt;/i&gt; comes to my mind:&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;I&#039; th&#039; last night&#039;s storm I such a fellow saw,
Which made me think a man a worm. My son
Came then into my mind, and yet my mind
Was then scarce friends with him. I have heard more since.
As flies to wanton boys are we to th&#039; gods,
They kill us for their sport.&lt;/i&gt;  [IV.i.32-37]&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Perhaps the most depressing lines in the whole oeuvre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Simon Dyda on @ 02:07 PM:</b><br />
<blockquote><i>To annoy the English, of course.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Fair enough; but that&#8217;s not the most <i>demanding</i> of sports, now is it? Nor is it a level playing field. I mean annoying the <i>English</i>. Fish in a barrel stuff.</p>
<p>For some daft reason Gloucester in <i>King Lear</i> comes to my mind:<br />
<blockquote><i>I&#8217; th&#8217; last night&#8217;s storm I such a fellow saw,<br />
Which made me think a man a worm. My son<br />
Came then into my mind, and yet my mind<br />
Was then scarce friends with him. I have heard more since.<br />
As flies to wanton boys are we to th&#8217; gods,<br />
They kill us for their sport.</i>  [IV.i.32-37]</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps the most depressing lines in the whole oeuvre.</p>
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		<title>By: Dewi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dewi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon - some of my best friends...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon &#8211; some of my best friends&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Dyda</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2009/10/10/come-may-2010-the-most-important-labour-politician-in-britain-will-be/comment-page-1/#comment-351437</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Dyda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;But, Dewi, why would any true Welshman or Welshwoman want pre-eminence in the UK?&lt;/i&gt;&quot; 

To annoy the English, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>But, Dewi, why would any true Welshman or Welshwoman want pre-eminence in the UK?</i>&#8221; </p>
<p>To annoy the English, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: dewi</title>
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		<dc:creator>dewi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Malcolm - I&#039;m writing in the abstract....I&#039;m totally ambivalent about what the Welsh Labour Party do..it&#039;s up to them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malcolm &#8211; I&#8217;m writing in the abstract&#8230;.I&#8217;m totally ambivalent about what the Welsh Labour Party do..it&#8217;s up to them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm Redfellow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malcolm Redfellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, &lt;b&gt;Dewi&lt;/b&gt;, why would any true Welshman or Welshwoman want pre-eminence in the UK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, <b>Dewi</b>, why would any true Welshman or Welshwoman want pre-eminence in the UK?</p>
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		<title>By: Thereyouarenow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thereyouarenow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me Boris is a bufoon(though well connected one) but this may be an advantage in the Tory party.If you say the right things and are lucky with your enemies you can go a long way in the Tory party. 

Thatcher did well for them(from their point of view) though she was certainly no intelectual giant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me Boris is a bufoon(though well connected one) but this may be an advantage in the Tory party.If you say the right things and are lucky with your enemies you can go a long way in the Tory party. </p>
<p>Thatcher did well for them(from their point of view) though she was certainly no intelectual giant.</p>
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		<title>By: dewi</title>
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		<dc:creator>dewi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. In terms of legislative ability Robinson surely has more powers. Johnson&#039;s actions effect a lot of people no doubt. He gave a very loyal Paxman interview at the Tory conference btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. In terms of legislative ability Robinson surely has more powers. Johnson&#8217;s actions effect a lot of people no doubt. He gave a very loyal Paxman interview at the Tory conference btw.</p>
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		<title>By: Thereyouarenow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thereyouarenow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dewi said
5.Robinson more important than Johnson no doubt - but a minister?

If you mean Peter Robinson and Boris Johnson then you are incloud cuckoo lane if you think that the First Minister of an outlying province is more important than the Mayor of london.

If you look at the population of london and the number of people that come into it to work then you should have no doubt how important the london Mayor is.

Not to mention that Boris Johnson has designs on becoming Tory leader and Prime Minister (I kid you not)
This is why Boris is stirring up the European question to make life as difficult as possible for Cameron.
It is my belief that these two former Bullingdon boys are from bosom buddies these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dewi said<br />
5.Robinson more important than Johnson no doubt &#8211; but a minister?</p>
<p>If you mean Peter Robinson and Boris Johnson then you are incloud cuckoo lane if you think that the First Minister of an outlying province is more important than the Mayor of london.</p>
<p>If you look at the population of london and the number of people that come into it to work then you should have no doubt how important the london Mayor is.</p>
<p>Not to mention that Boris Johnson has designs on becoming Tory leader and Prime Minister (I kid you not)<br />
This is why Boris is stirring up the European question to make life as difficult as possible for Cameron.<br />
It is my belief that these two former Bullingdon boys are from bosom buddies these days.</p>
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		<title>By: dewi</title>
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		<dc:creator>dewi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robinson more important than Johnson no doubt - but a minister?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robinson more important than Johnson no doubt &#8211; but a minister?</p>
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		<title>By: Drumlins Rock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drumlins Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>raises an interesting point dewi, should the London assembly be treated the same as the other devolved assemblys and the mayor the same as the First Ministers, it is a bit more than a super council.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>raises an interesting point dewi, should the London assembly be treated the same as the other devolved assemblys and the mayor the same as the First Ministers, it is a bit more than a super council.</p>
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		<title>By: dewi</title>
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		<dc:creator>dewi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boris Johnson maybe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boris Johnson maybe?</p>
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		<title>By: DR</title>
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		<dc:creator>DR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>using Dewi s logic are Empey and McGimpsey the most senior Tories in the country atm? as they are the only two who hold ministerial seats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>using Dewi s logic are Empey and McGimpsey the most senior Tories in the country atm? as they are the only two who hold ministerial seats.</p>
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		<title>By: Cadiff East Rock Steady Crew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cadiff East Rock Steady Crew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carwyn has family in the North - mother&#039;s side I think. And as this is the North the answer to the question you all want to ask is &quot;Catholic&quot;. But fundamentally he&#039;s a tube.

Huw all the way!

Seriously, Huw is one with the new ideas. He&#039;s the outsider but he&#039;s the one with a brain.

Think Carwyn, think Brown: everybody&#039;s expected him to take over for some time but nobody is convinced he acan actually do it.

Edwina is not exactly one of nature&#039;s charmers but she&#039;s a more competent version of Carwyn I&#039;d guess</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carwyn has family in the North &#8211; mother&#8217;s side I think. And as this is the North the answer to the question you all want to ask is &#8220;Catholic&#8221;. But fundamentally he&#8217;s a tube.</p>
<p>Huw all the way!</p>
<p>Seriously, Huw is one with the new ideas. He&#8217;s the outsider but he&#8217;s the one with a brain.</p>
<p>Think Carwyn, think Brown: everybody&#8217;s expected him to take over for some time but nobody is convinced he acan actually do it.</p>
<p>Edwina is not exactly one of nature&#8217;s charmers but she&#8217;s a more competent version of Carwyn I&#8217;d guess</p>
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