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	<title>Comments on: 1981 Hunger Strike: Deconstructing McGuinness</title>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2009/09/28/1981-hunger-strike-deconstructing-mcguinness/comment-page-2/#comment-349734</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No John it seems you are confused. 

I said I didn&#039;t issue a fatwa against you as that is an slamist thing to do&quot; and you replied that its too bad I wasn&#039;t more christian which would seem to indicate if I wanted to be more christian I should issue a fatwa! Make up your mind</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No John it seems you are confused. </p>
<p>I said I didn&#8217;t issue a fatwa against you as that is an slamist thing to do&#8221; and you replied that its too bad I wasn&#8217;t more christian which would seem to indicate if I wanted to be more christian I should issue a fatwa! Make up your mind</p>
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		<title>By: John O'Connell</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2009/09/28/1981-hunger-strike-deconstructing-mcguinness/comment-page-2/#comment-349728</link>
		<dc:creator>John O'Connell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re confused, Sean. You really shouldn&#039;t be let out, perhaps you&#039;re not, never mind be making threats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re confused, Sean. You really shouldn&#8217;t be let out, perhaps you&#8217;re not, never mind be making threats.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2009/09/28/1981-hunger-strike-deconstructing-mcguinness/comment-page-2/#comment-349725</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John
So if I had issued a fatwa it would have been christian of me? How interesting!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John<br />
So if I had issued a fatwa it would have been christian of me? How interesting!!</p>
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		<title>By: John O'Connell</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2009/09/28/1981-hunger-strike-deconstructing-mcguinness/comment-page-1/#comment-349687</link>
		<dc:creator>John O'Connell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean

&lt;i&gt;that is a purely Islamist thing to do&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s sad that you have no Christian ambitions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean</p>
<p><i>that is a purely Islamist thing to do</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad that you have no Christian ambitions.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2009/09/28/1981-hunger-strike-deconstructing-mcguinness/comment-page-1/#comment-349658</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>der ding a ling is back, oh how I havent missed him

Any who, John as a non practicing Pastaferianist I am curious how I could issue a fatwa as that is a purely Islamist thing to do</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>der ding a ling is back, oh how I havent missed him</p>
<p>Any who, John as a non practicing Pastaferianist I am curious how I could issue a fatwa as that is a purely Islamist thing to do</p>
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		<title>By: Ingram</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2009/09/28/1981-hunger-strike-deconstructing-mcguinness/comment-page-1/#comment-349653</link>
		<dc:creator>Ingram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ding Ding

Mick , That little Red London bus is still on schedule.

You know manny of my former colleagues were of the firm opinion Paddy was thick ? not me !

But ! Now ?

With exeption of Father Faul and Rusty ! 

How wrong can one be.

Ding Ding

Smell the coffee boys

Ingram</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ding Ding</p>
<p>Mick , That little Red London bus is still on schedule.</p>
<p>You know manny of my former colleagues were of the firm opinion Paddy was thick ? not me !</p>
<p>But ! Now ?</p>
<p>With exeption of Father Faul and Rusty ! </p>
<p>How wrong can one be.</p>
<p>Ding Ding</p>
<p>Smell the coffee boys</p>
<p>Ingram</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2009/09/28/1981-hunger-strike-deconstructing-mcguinness/comment-page-1/#comment-349638</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL threaten you? How could I possibly threaten the second coming of Christ?

I just assumed since you ascended the first time you will be at some point making a return journey?

I am a little rusty on your silly old superstition but I thought that is why we got time off on easter as your (brother/father) went home for a visit?

Just asking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL threaten you? How could I possibly threaten the second coming of Christ?</p>
<p>I just assumed since you ascended the first time you will be at some point making a return journey?</p>
<p>I am a little rusty on your silly old superstition but I thought that is why we got time off on easter as your (brother/father) went home for a visit?</p>
<p>Just asking!</p>
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		<title>By: John O'Connell</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2009/09/28/1981-hunger-strike-deconstructing-mcguinness/comment-page-1/#comment-349633</link>
		<dc:creator>John O'Connell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean

&lt;i&gt;John Oconnell I hear you are ascending to heaven to meet your father, I hope customs doesn’t stop you. Do you have a pass port?&lt;/i&gt; 

Thanks for telling me that there is a fatwa out on me.

Do you republicans ever grow up or will you forever threaten us and call it politics. You know, you had your war and you failed. That&#039;s why we&#039;re in this mess. Had you have succeeded we&#039;d be in a worse mess. Why don&#039;t you give up and stop trying to intimidate people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean</p>
<p><i>John Oconnell I hear you are ascending to heaven to meet your father, I hope customs doesn’t stop you. Do you have a pass port?</i> </p>
<p>Thanks for telling me that there is a fatwa out on me.</p>
<p>Do you republicans ever grow up or will you forever threaten us and call it politics. You know, you had your war and you failed. That&#8217;s why we&#8217;re in this mess. Had you have succeeded we&#8217;d be in a worse mess. Why don&#8217;t you give up and stop trying to intimidate people.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian MacAodh</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2009/09/28/1981-hunger-strike-deconstructing-mcguinness/comment-page-1/#comment-349627</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian MacAodh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s so insightful, that is what she said to the mayor of Chicago, who was of Irish American (last name Byrne).  She didn&#039;t even realize he was Irish-American, or  she knew and said it on purpose. INtelligent and charming. 

Maybe her friend Lord Bittenberg aka Mountbatten shouldn&#039;t have vacationed in a land full of &quot;pigs&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;s so insightful, that is what she said to the mayor of Chicago, who was of Irish American (last name Byrne).  She didn&#8217;t even realize he was Irish-American, or  she knew and said it on purpose. INtelligent and charming. </p>
<p>Maybe her friend Lord Bittenberg aka Mountbatten shouldn&#8217;t have vacationed in a land full of &#8220;pigs&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Aodh Who</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2009/09/28/1981-hunger-strike-deconstructing-mcguinness/comment-page-1/#comment-349614</link>
		<dc:creator>Aodh Who</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice quote. Who&#039;d have thought that the lady was so insightful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice quote. Who&#8217;d have thought that the lady was so insightful?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian MacAodh</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2009/09/28/1981-hunger-strike-deconstructing-mcguinness/comment-page-1/#comment-349582</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian MacAodh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Sean, as that slut Princess Margaret said, they&#039;re all just &quot;irish pigs&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Sean, as that slut Princess Margaret said, they&#8217;re all just &#8220;irish pigs&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2009/09/28/1981-hunger-strike-deconstructing-mcguinness/comment-page-1/#comment-349482</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 04:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see my little expierement worked, the commenting policy remains the same as always

Say what ever ignorant shit you want about irish and republicans but keep your uppity mouth shut around them nice unionists fellers 

lol Mick you are funny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see my little expierement worked, the commenting policy remains the same as always</p>
<p>Say what ever ignorant shit you want about irish and republicans but keep your uppity mouth shut around them nice unionists fellers </p>
<p>lol Mick you are funny</p>
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		<title>By: Only Asking</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2009/09/28/1981-hunger-strike-deconstructing-mcguinness/comment-page-1/#comment-349469</link>
		<dc:creator>Only Asking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,

only asking is the name I took

and at john you may look

but you&#039;d better not do more

cos the devil&#039;s at the door

and he&#039;ll snatch with fingering hands....


LOOK!

behind you there he stands......

LOL

send me an email and I&#039;ll tell you my secrets</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>only asking is the name I took</p>
<p>and at john you may look</p>
<p>but you&#8217;d better not do more</p>
<p>cos the devil&#8217;s at the door</p>
<p>and he&#8217;ll snatch with fingering hands&#8230;.</p>
<p>LOOK!</p>
<p>behind you there he stands&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>LOL</p>
<p>send me an email and I&#8217;ll tell you my secrets</p>
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		<title>By: Brian MacAodh</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2009/09/28/1981-hunger-strike-deconstructing-mcguinness/comment-page-1/#comment-349458</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian MacAodh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John

While you&#039;re up there could you ask your Father to tell us who &quot;Only Asking&quot; is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John</p>
<p>While you&#8217;re up there could you ask your Father to tell us who &#8220;Only Asking&#8221; is?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2009/09/28/1981-hunger-strike-deconstructing-mcguinness/comment-page-1/#comment-349454</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Oconnell I hear you are ascending to heaven to meet your father, I hope customs doesn&#039;t stop you. Do you have a pass port?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Oconnell I hear you are ascending to heaven to meet your father, I hope customs doesn&#8217;t stop you. Do you have a pass port?</p>
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		<title>By: Dixie Elliott</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2009/09/28/1981-hunger-strike-deconstructing-mcguinness/comment-page-1/#comment-349437</link>
		<dc:creator>Dixie Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only Asking...Of course I&#039;m sure that you would have nothing to fear by using your own name to attack someone for remaining anonymous, then you might be a lot more credible Mo Chara.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only Asking&#8230;Of course I&#8217;m sure that you would have nothing to fear by using your own name to attack someone for remaining anonymous, then you might be a lot more credible Mo Chara.</p>
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		<title>By: Dixie</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2009/09/28/1981-hunger-strike-deconstructing-mcguinness/comment-page-1/#comment-349435</link>
		<dc:creator>Dixie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joeCanuck I thank you also and would like to add to what dunreavynomore wrote in reference to Gerard Hodgkin&#039;s piece in today&#039;s Irish News.

Gerard goes on to tell us that he went to the behind closed door meeting in Gulladuff with Jimmy Dempsey whose son John was killed by the British Army the morning Joe McDonnell died.

&quot;We both had questions we would like to ask, we were politely but firmly refused entry to the meeting and I personally was subjected to threats and menaces by a senior Provisional, all because I wanted to ask questions about events in 1981.&quot;

Now this was a meeting where Adams had closeted the Hunger Striker&#039;s families in to give his version of events and had heavies on the door to stop anyone, including a former Hunger Striker, gaining entry to ask uncomfortable questions.

Why not let him in and answer his questions before the families if he had nothing to fear?

And as you see these are the types of threats that might deter the likes of Rusty from going public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joeCanuck I thank you also and would like to add to what dunreavynomore wrote in reference to Gerard Hodgkin&#8217;s piece in today&#8217;s Irish News.</p>
<p>Gerard goes on to tell us that he went to the behind closed door meeting in Gulladuff with Jimmy Dempsey whose son John was killed by the British Army the morning Joe McDonnell died.</p>
<p>&#8220;We both had questions we would like to ask, we were politely but firmly refused entry to the meeting and I personally was subjected to threats and menaces by a senior Provisional, all because I wanted to ask questions about events in 1981.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now this was a meeting where Adams had closeted the Hunger Striker&#8217;s families in to give his version of events and had heavies on the door to stop anyone, including a former Hunger Striker, gaining entry to ask uncomfortable questions.</p>
<p>Why not let him in and answer his questions before the families if he had nothing to fear?</p>
<p>And as you see these are the types of threats that might deter the likes of Rusty from going public.</p>
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		<title>By: Dixie</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2009/09/28/1981-hunger-strike-deconstructing-mcguinness/comment-page-1/#comment-349430</link>
		<dc:creator>Dixie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how do you know that several people are using changing pseudonyms? Is Dixie still using his unsurpassed IP address tracing skills? 
give us a 99

Under how many different names have you asked that question now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how do you know that several people are using changing pseudonyms? Is Dixie still using his unsurpassed IP address tracing skills?<br />
give us a 99</p>
<p>Under how many different names have you asked that question now?</p>
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		<title>By: John O'Connell</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2009/09/28/1981-hunger-strike-deconstructing-mcguinness/comment-page-1/#comment-349427</link>
		<dc:creator>John O'Connell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only Asking

Are you the diplomatic onslaught from Sinn Fein headquarters? 

How else would you know so much about everything it seems? 

It would be a nice departure if this diplomacy was the way ad infinitum for Sinn Fein but we all know that an organisation that reserves the right to kick people to death when they get the wrong side of them is really just posturing and playing with diplomacy. Soon you will have brought every aspect of politics and diplomacy into disrepute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only Asking</p>
<p>Are you the diplomatic onslaught from Sinn Fein headquarters? </p>
<p>How else would you know so much about everything it seems? </p>
<p>It would be a nice departure if this diplomacy was the way ad infinitum for Sinn Fein but we all know that an organisation that reserves the right to kick people to death when they get the wrong side of them is really just posturing and playing with diplomacy. Soon you will have brought every aspect of politics and diplomacy into disrepute.</p>
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		<title>By: Only Asking.</title>
		<link>http://sluggerotoole.com/2009/09/28/1981-hunger-strike-deconstructing-mcguinness/comment-page-1/#comment-349416</link>
		<dc:creator>Only Asking.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dunreavy, I listened to Tony Catney on Radio Free Eireann at the weekend describe how he was attacked handing out fliers in west Belfast, in the drive of a shinners house.  Theres always going to be attacks with republicanism split so many ways and such an emotive debate as this also.  Yet the shinners have no army behind them, they can&#039;t use bully tatics of old, I think thats a given, I don&#039;t think the &#039;old days&#039; are back. Anyone who was involved, either in Republicanism, or the HS themselves has come out and laid their feelings on the table.

I can well understand the Quinn family saying to you what they did, and there will always be exceptions to this, things are not perfect. But in general, i doubt the old days have returned. The control exercised on areas is much less than it used to be, and opinions on the HS controversy whether on the street or in the press are being expressed openly and honestly. Anyone contributing is doing so from their own position, despite smears and underhand dealings.

I also listened to Mr McBrearty on RFE discuss the protests at PSNI board community meetings, people are open about it.  The evidence is all over the media. 
I don&#039;t think anyone fears now like they used to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dunreavy, I listened to Tony Catney on Radio Free Eireann at the weekend describe how he was attacked handing out fliers in west Belfast, in the drive of a shinners house.  Theres always going to be attacks with republicanism split so many ways and such an emotive debate as this also.  Yet the shinners have no army behind them, they can&#8217;t use bully tatics of old, I think thats a given, I don&#8217;t think the &#8216;old days&#8217; are back. Anyone who was involved, either in Republicanism, or the HS themselves has come out and laid their feelings on the table.</p>
<p>I can well understand the Quinn family saying to you what they did, and there will always be exceptions to this, things are not perfect. But in general, i doubt the old days have returned. The control exercised on areas is much less than it used to be, and opinions on the HS controversy whether on the street or in the press are being expressed openly and honestly. Anyone contributing is doing so from their own position, despite smears and underhand dealings.</p>
<p>I also listened to Mr McBrearty on RFE discuss the protests at PSNI board community meetings, people are open about it.  The evidence is all over the media.<br />
I don&#8217;t think anyone fears now like they used to.</p>
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