Big European debate: O’Leary versus Ganley…
Great line up from Matt Cooper on Today FM at the IrishTimes building…
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True to form, O’Leary is late…
Turns up giving 100 free books…
Harkin gives five reasons to vote Yes (by far the sharpest of the speakers so far:
2/3 of all legislation is under the control of the national parliaments, after Lisbon it will be 95%…
Ganley: Back to the drawing board and get a better deal..
Whoops, here comes O’Leary: “They (the Irish government) are crap and bankcrupt…”
Don’t listen to this lobby of losers… The “Beside me is Dana (Joe – ie an MEP)… Next to him is some who used be Dana Patricia (ie used to be MEP), and one who wanted to be Dana (ie Declan who never quite made it)… “
Martin: we have never surrendered sovereignty to Europe, we have agreed to share sovereignty… Hammers on about exports to Europe…
Harkin is making point to McKenna that money being given to the poles to take dell is what Ireland had would she deny that same subsidy to Polish workers…?
Higgins attacks commission for taking free corporate flights around Ireland with Ryanair…
Ganley having a great populist ding dong (O’Leary’s ‘evil empire’ quote in the middle of it…)
Ganley having a great populist ding dong (O’Leary’s ‘evil empire’ quote in the middle of it…)
Patricia McKenna claiming the treaty is actually out of date.
Missed that RS… very interesting debate about consequences of saying No… will double back on that later…
Detect some dishonesty on that from both sides… but good line from Martin on the importance of sentiment in negotiations in Council…
Ganley quoting O’Leary from earlier:
“The EU Commission is Stalinist. The EU is an evil empire that is psychologically and morally bankrupt. The Brussels fonctionnaires are incompetent peasant politicians, morons and gobs**tes.”
Good handbags over the charter.
“Vote for Lisbon its bad for your health” poster.
Good riposte by McKenna to O’learys claim that unemployed are the only needy people in the country.
Martin people elect politicians…
Great to hear two women step up to the mark and best the men in many respects…
Ganley sticking the boot into Sarko.
It seems you are always correct if you ‘create jobs’.
Great question regarding the undemocratic nature of making ireland vote again.
Claim being made that all the worries of the irish people have been addressed so its ok to put it forward again.
Ganley makes good point that if any changes had been made to the treaty ALL the countries would have had to ratify it again. So its the same ‘corpse’.
O’Learys Zimbabwe quote thrown back at him.
Naoise Nunn gets a mention from O’Leary trying to say even Libertas can’t agree on what it thinks (Naoise’s been out of Libertas for months – dodgy claims don’t enhance anyone’s case)…
Ganley ‘Obsessed with Britain’ agent for UKIP.
Martin plays his ace card (ie that the guarantees and the change on Commissioners were a direct answer to his campaign of last year – and they are not using it this year. Why? If as Ganley claims, nothing has change.
Cheers when Martin accuses Ganley of being obsessed with pushing Britain’s (and UKIP’s) agenda…
Patricia McKenna claiming the ‘commissoner issue’ can be re-visited.
O’Leary has to go early, he also thinks the vote is a week early.
Higgins: “Disgusting racist bigoted views of UKIP…” << Joe’s been swallowing the Irish govt pill on that..
In my experience, UKIP are a lot of things, but they are neither racist nor bigoted…
Hasty debate being organised between O’Leary and Ganley later tonight.
Declan:
Pre crisis treaty for a post crisis world… quotes Munchau (who completely disagrees with him)
“UKIP influence in this debate does deserve to be discussed”
Cooper:
“One singer, one song…” << good handling Matt!! The whole way through…
Applause for Ganley as he leaves…
Joe says the armaments industry is Pro Lisbon… where did Ganley get his money from..?
Patricia McKenna’s favourite bogey man – the military industry
Harkin, did you know that it is the EU that has given Irish women equal rights..
EU is “Greatest force for peace in the history of Europe”
that was funy: thanks RS!
“Harkin gives five reasons to vote Yes (by far the sharpest of the speakers so far:
2/3 of all legislation is under the control of the national parliaments, after Lisbon it will be 95%…”
She’s making stuff up. That isn’t what the Germany’s Federal Constitutional Court declared in its judgement of on February 2009. It found that “the status of national parliaments is considerably curtailed” by provisions contained within the Treaty of Lisbon.
In actuality, up to 80% of all Ireland’s laws originate with the EU. After Lisbon and the transfer of over 60 new areas of national policy, that figure will rise, not fall.
Home in Belshaft now after driving from Dublin, anymore word on the Ganley O’Leary tete-a-tete meant to be organised Mick?