“Ted Kennedy will be deeply regretted..”
I see the BBC have helpfully edited Sinn Féin president Gerry Adams’ published comments on the death of US Senator Ted Kennedy. Which was nice of them.. According to the BBC’s online report Adams said, “Ted Kennedy will be much missed.” But the original text [as of 2.25pm] in the Sinn Féin press release, captured below the fold, was somewhat different – “Ted Kennedy will be deeply regretted and much missed.” [Shurely shome mishtake? - Ed] And the BBC might want to check David Ford’s actual statement too. Adds They have.Screen capture of Gerry Adams statement [2.25pm].
Just, why? It’s not even funny
This post reminds me of the Medieval Theologians who wondered how many angels would fit on the eye of a needle. Folks with too much time on their hands.
Too much anorak; even for Anorakdom.
Sad Sad Sad
“And the BBC might want to check David Ford’s actual statement too.”
Great beards think alike …
Get a room.
I think this says alot about Pete.
Sorry Pete but its true.
You twist and warp things too often and I think you affect the site’s popularity.
Okay you are prolific but this is tawdry stuff.
Deeply regretted is a phrase typical of mass cards.
I think you should complain to the BBC Trust immediately – it’s clearly unheard of for editors to edit stuff.
*rolls eyes*
I remember when Slugger used to be interesting.
Pete:
http://www.google.com/search?q=obituary “deeply regretted”
Hmm, that didn’t work too well..
http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&source=hp&q=obituary+“deeply+regretted”&btnG=Google+Search&meta;=&aq=f&oq=obituary+”deeply+regretted”&fp=458d05167c37f829
John
You’re pointing at death notices.
Where family members, paying by the word, are noting, with regret, the deaths of their loved ones.
Adams’[?] use of the phrase in, presumably, an attempt at solemnity merely rendered his sentence beyond comprehension.
Never liked the shinners myself, especially Marty 40 faces.
But your obsession with the beardy fellah, is a bit creepy.
Read the piece, and I didn’t come away with the conclusion,
‘That Adams fellah, he can’t knit a good phrase, how does he expect to become a persuader for anything?’
it was more
‘Does that blawwwger fellah go through the beardy fellahs blue bin and write his ‘findings’ down on a notepad with the beardy fellahs picture on the front, and do the eyes on the picture have big black X’s on them?’
hehe
Notes on Northern Ireland Culture indeed
‘Adams’[?] use of the phrase in, presumably, an attempt at solemnity merely rendered his sentence beyond comprehension.’
Right so Grizzly leaving out the word ‘absence’ or something merits an entire thread, with you capturing screenshots and all???!!!!!!
RS
Gerry’s statement is what Gerry’s statement is.
Nonsensical though his statement may be, I didn’t issue it.
You seem to be objecting to the fact that I noticed it on the Sinn Féin website [and noted that the BBC had edited it].
Pete:
Of course I’m using death notices – Ted Kennedy died, didn’t he?! It’s a perfectly common phrase, and you’ve got egg on your face.
Pete
Methinks you should be the last person criticising others for rendering a sentence incomprehensible!
Anyway, what did they do to Ford’s statement, since we can’t see the Beeb’s error any more?
John
Look again.
Gonzo
Sub-edit someone else, eh?
As Nevin implied, there was a duplication in the quotation.
Keep digging that hole, telescope boy.
Why don’t you just admit either
a) that you are infatuated by Big Grissly
or
b) you got this one wrong?
John (#23),
You said Pete has egg on his face.
Pete is never wrong.
I say this to save anybody the effort of discussing the point further.
From hence forth this common phrase shall no longer be spoken under pain of relentless logic applied withour reason.
Guys
Feel free to detail where you think I’ve “got this one wrong”.
But you didnt.
It was a ground breaking story highlighting something of deep importance.
We know you are correct.
The world is adjusting to your point of view
I’d say you got it wrong in that you took a screenshot of a non event and subsequently exposed a little too much of your own psyche.
It’s the sort of thing that reinforces the view that blogging is just loonies ranting at an indifferent universe. In this case with somewhat leaden attempts at ‘personality’ manifested as ‘Dandy readers page style’ interjections
[make that two loonies - Ed]
But aprt from that, it’s a woodwardian scoop if I ever saw one.
This thread gets more hysterical (and I don’t mean funny) every time I read it.
Someone’s just come on the McNarry thread and said that people are simply ignoring what he meant by the ‘other country’ comment. Nevertheless, the point stands because that is the way he framed it. He takes the hit. And we all move on…
Someone messed up here too. And it was noted. But unless you guys have a more convincing argument (other than black is white) that Pete called it wrong, then it’s time to move on…
Playing the man, is playing the man…
The original article was vapid.
[Text removed - play the ball Padraig!]
Sorry Mike.
[That's a Yellow - just behave!]
Ah, Pete, thought you had a sense of humour. Anyway, people in glass houses and all that.
Why not just publish Adams whole piece from the Guardian, cannot really see the point of this thread.
The point of this thread seemed to me to be nothing more than a petty attempt to use the death of Ted Kennedy to get a cheap pop at Gerry Adams.
This kind of thread does this site no service whatsoever.
MickH
“cannot really see the point of this thread.”
Well, it could be just to note the inanity of the statement itself.
Starhound
“a cheap pop at Gerry Adams”
If Gerry didn’t want anyone to pay attention to his statement, then he shouldn’t have made it. Nor put it on the Sinn Féin website.
You all seem to think you are winding Pete up but it looks more like he is far better at the winding
Politicians are fair game for scrutiny on a political website, how about that.
I was amused to uncover some examples of Sinn Fein’s irritation with Ted Kennedy when he took the side of the McCartneys in 1995. In Daily Ireland, Danny Morrison produced a savage account of Kennedy’s misdoings in 1969 at Chappquiddick, ending with: ‘So, with that example of a cover-up, the destruction of evidence, contempt for the law and failure to fully cooperate with police, I think it ill-behoves Senator Ted Kennedy to be lecturing anyone.’
Ruth
Thanks for that Ruth. The only place I could find the text is on one of Diarmid’s blogs: http://url.ie/2am9
And thanks for that, Mick. It makes great reading.
I found the Daily Ireland version quoted in an article of mine when I googled my website for Ted Kennedy. I imagine the blog was even more detailed.
‘You seem to be objecting to the fact that I noticed it on the Sinn Féin website [and noted that the BBC had edited it].’
Im not objecting to anything Pete, just incredulous that you think Grizzly’s lack of eloquence is worthy of a thread all by its own. Little obsessive?
Pete
Feel free to detail where you think I’ve “got this one wrong”.
Pressing submit.
Mick
I could blog every random thought that goes into my head. I have privileges to do so. That does not make it a good idea.
I could understand if the miscommunication was particularly funny, or revealing. It isn’t. Someone just needs a decent proof reader.
All this thread does is suck oxygen.
The post was about a poor piece of English. The thread has been about ‘get Pete’ at all costs. Yep, that’s a serious loss of oxygen. See #6 above.
Mick
If you had have posted it, it would have been get Mick. Had I have posted it, it would have been get Kensei. It is much harder to get people when they don’t do stuff that invites it.
Everyone gets to blog what they like, yup. But everyone in the comments also gets to complain if it is pointless, annoying or repetitive. Which hopefully will constrain excesses. That’s a decent system, no?
“In Daily Ireland, Danny Morrison produced a savage account of Kennedy’s misdoings in 1969 at Chappquiddick, ending with: ‘So, with that example of a cover-up, the destruction of evidence, contempt for the law and failure to fully cooperate with police, I think it ill-behoves Senator Ted Kennedy to be lecturing anyone.’”
Indeed, Ruth.
“Ted Kennedy will be [] much missed.”
Apart from when he was being inconvenient for Sinn Féin.
Going on what Danny Morrison has said, surely even SF will not have the breathtaking hypocrisy to send a representative to his funeral. Now that really would be taking the piss.
I don’t think they will but SF are so up themselves these days they may decide to send a low level apparatchik.
And the Sinners immediately got a flea put in their ear from Kennedy’s staffers about that piece and suggestions concerning the difficulty in obtaining future visas for certain people were made and Bangers very quickly shut up. Which is usually good for everybody.
I was amused to uncover some examples of Sinn Fein’s irritation with Ted Kennedy when he took the side of the McCartneys in 1995.
I am glad to see you introduce a bit of balance into the Kennedy discussion, Ruth, which contrasts starkly with your appalling Daily Mail diatribe.
- from the poster formerly known as ‘Southern Observer’.
“Thanks for that Ruth”, “Indeed Ruth”
Jaysus lads why dontcha go the whole hog and say “three bags full Ruth?”
What else would you expect from Ms Edwards but a diatribe, I mean who takes the woman seriously? She penned another diatribe against Ken Loach upon release of ‘The Wind That Shakes The Barley’ without ever having seen the movie !
Gerry Adams’ coments don’t count for aything. The Swimmer will not be missed. I am surprised Rush Limbaugh did not speak more about its passing.
Republican stones
Credit where it is due, despite what we might feel about Ms Edward’s reactionary prose, her post above was a neat piece of footwork.
Although I am not sure why Dan was brought in to reinforce the argument as he is no longer active within SF.
Pete
Apart from when he was being inconvenient for Sinn Féin.
Do you have to always agree with someone to admire him, or mourn his passing? This is a car crash of a thread.
“She penned another diatribe against Ken Loach upon release of ‘The Wind That Shakes The Barley’ without ever having seen the movie ! ”
I was gonna read the diatribe, but I didn’t bother as I couldn’t stand it’s sheer predictability.