Anyone and everyone now seem to be wearing the cloak of immunity available for hire to all those questioning the seemingly dubious veracity of Adams’ account

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Please do explain how someone with a very dark, tragic secret to hide could possibly think that, by questioning the sad little fantasies conjured up by the IRSP regarding their abilit to trace IP addresses on this very site, they could possibly hope to delay the inevitable i.e. the truth coming out and Adams held to account once and for all? I can’t wait to hear your explanation

Anyone and everyone now seem to be wearing the cloak of immunity available for hire to all those questioning the veracity of Adams’ account

Getting a bit too close?

it ain’t going away no matter how hard you try!

http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/news/Steve-Ilona-s-love-conquered-paralysis-Catholic-Church/article-754708-detail/article.html

except that’s rubbish because the individual was responding to silly little vacuous claims, including one made at post 7 in page 1 of this thread, that the irsp somehow is able to trace the location of individuals using the ip addresses of contributors to slugger and politics.ie

[i]I have no desire to become involved in any potential libel proceedings. I suspect, anyway, that the owner of the site will delete all of your comments for the same reason.[/i]

what do you do when you want to sue for libel but no libelous comments have been made against you and you don’t accept the authority of british courts in northern ireland?

Totally, since I only passed through it in darkness once.

I’m not going to comment on a named individual – even innocuously – because I have no desire to become involved in any potential libel proceedings. I suspect, anyway, that the owner of the site will delete all of your comments for the same reason.

Trolling is deliberately throwing a thread off-topic. That’s what you are doing by focusing on someone who has no relevance to the topic. And with due respect to the thread’s author, I’ll not be replying to you again.

Top class, Rusty Nail. You must be very near a Spotlight or Insight programme, which would really set this place on fire. Good luck.

“that he was able to access the IP addresses of individuals using this very site and subsequently ascertain their location.”

Im not too bothered about what this thread is about tbh, personally I believe the IRA let the Hunger Strikers die.

“there seems to be someone scaremongering about what details can be found out posting on a public forum/blog.”

the *ONLY* way this is possible is if slugger admin (taking they host their own server, which i take they do) release this information to a 3rd party, then if this 3rd party takes this information to the relevant (bloggers) ISP, who then reveal data personal to an individual (which they simply will not do). unless this person is well placed in the security forces this is not a trivial thing to do without getting noticed.

Sounds like someone is trying to call someones bluff.

PS I got the in dependent’s articles on MP’s expenses, but it only goes back a few years, does anyone know what the Rt Hon Bobby Sands food expenses were ? seriously ?

So says ‘Dave’ as he indulges in err…low-rent trolling and name-calling…lol

What utter bollocks, why talk about things you clearly know nothing about ?

All joe public can glean from an IP address is his *ISP’s* geographic location, not HIS. Secondly some ISP’s still use dynamic IP addresses (BT for example) so one day an IP could be in Belfast, and the Next day it could be Bradford. Thats why the “red card” system on this blog is useless.

The police can go to your ISP and request IP logs (which DO Identify an Individual to an IP over a limited time frame).

An even more stupid comment is

“I.P tracing is not a great big secret intelligence tool…unlike the tools who lack the intelligence on how the magic computer works.
Have to laugh as it sounds like bloody witchcraft.
If hackers break into highly restricted computers, then without a doubt it would be “WEE BUNS” to pin point and I.P.”

Anyone who wants to hide their tracks can make it *EXTREMELY* difficult to trace, it is quite easy for hackers to route traffic all over the world before hitting their target, using hijacked systems. And how wee buns would it be to go to say the Chinese or Russians to get logs (Which some ISP’s in these countries don’t reveal or even sometimes keep?). What if the initiation point is a stolen 3g or hacked wireless point ?.

A hacker could sit outside your house and easily use *YOUR* internet connection and its gonna be your door kicked in at 5am a week later……”WEE BUNS” ?.

Its not like all those Holywood films folks.

Before you start another stream of posts attempting to demonstrate that the person of your ire is central to the debate, he was not part of the events of 1981 under examination and therefore his role today in seeking the truth of things is peripheral and not worthy of the amount of time being devoted to him – unless of course, distraction is what is desired. Which of course you have achieved handily.

In other words, in the context of this debate, no one really gives a flying fk about the person you seem fixated on. The only ones who mention him in the manner you do are those who prefer to hide their own misdeeds.

However, with respect you are entirely ignorant of life in Strabane. If you had any inkling of the situation in the town it would turn your stomach to hear a particular individual lauded as a prophet of truth and to watch him claim, on another forum, that he was able to access the IP addresses of individuals using this very site and subsequently ascertain their location.

He has manipulated his role in this search for truth to his own advantage and now claims that any criticism which is directed at him are, by extension, a despicable attack upon the families of the ten dead men.

Before you decide you sling a bit of mud in future, how about doing a little bit of research?

Once the Shinners solicited a “Please me silent” letter from the relatives, that gave them the pretext they needed to close the debate – hence there are no ‘official’ SF spinners this time around.

Meanwhile, of course, the case keeps on building.

Personally I couldn’t give a monkeys who’s out to get me nor could I give another monkeys what you or any of the other names you post under thinks.

You talked about standing for elections and I remembered how it was…However who knows who anyone is, just as we want to know the truth.

I was never in the IRA…I left the IRA in 1974…I didn’t know about the Mountain Climber initiative until after the Hunger Strikes….

Let’s not get too hung up on ip addresses (which can be traced quite easily to a general location) and concentrate more on the facts at hand.

Ah the old election thingy previously used by John Hume/Gerry Fitt when Gerry Adams was saying while hiding behind the Brownie thingy….I love this one…

“The weakness of the IRA of that period was that instead of pursuing the war to it’s bitter end come what may, they allowed unscrupulous politicians and so called “Peacemakers” to gain the upper hand. The result was the betrayal of the Fight for Freedom followed by a vicious and brutal Civil War and of course partition. It is to be hoped that the lesson of that period will not be lost on today’s leaders. There is only one time to talk of peace and that is when the war has been won not while it is raging. The time to talk of peace is when the British have left Ireland, otherwise they will find some excuse to remain.”
Brownie, Republican News , May 8, 1976.

Always look on the bright side of life, Anon.