In one sentence, what does the 12th mean to you?
I’ll be asking this of people at the parades or protests or wherever on the 12th (13th) but lets have your answers here. One sentence only on ‘what the 12th means to you’…..
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Flutes and drums beating in the background in the morning; tension rising in the afternoon; our street getting a hammering in the evening.
Watching my street become a public loo or taking an enforced break. More on http://www.oconallstreet.com
“Ridiculously ignorant comparison of a sporting organisation that just happens to be played by a lot of Catholics”
and you forgot…..by alot of terrorists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eihivomev6k
or maybe this rings a bell ???
http://www.irishnews.com/appnews/540/542/2008/9/18/597984_357584863257Republican.html
and try this….
http://ograshinnfein.blogspot.com/2008/07/martin-hurson-and-tyrone-volunteers.html
or this
http://www.nwipp-newspapers.com/UH/free/357503636564602.php
“Ridiculously ignorant” …i think not.
Also can you please stop flying tricolours at games and refrain from playing the inflammatory “soldiers song”, and removing priests from this “sporting” body would help as well ?
Until very recently the GAA has made no attempt to engage the protestant community and until it moves away from it’s links with republicism it is pretty unlikely to appeal to many unionists.
But perhaps that is the idea.
Gréagoir O Frainclin: Anyone see Dan Snow’s programme on BBC2 over the past couple of nights about how Irish monks brought Christianity and civilisation to pagan Anglo-Saxon and Pictish Britain. One programme for ‘Ulster is my homeland’ and the likes to watch, given their appaling understanding of Irish history.
I doubt he went to Bangor Grammar – the school song starts: “Comgall noster Columbanus sanctus noster Gall Britannos efficere Christianos.” I’m just wondering why you are so sure UMH didn’t know that stuff – I haven’t seen him make any remarks on that topic.
The Toronto Sun says what the 12th means:
The march symbolizes “our pride in our heritage,” said Dennis Glazier, provincial grand master of the Grand Orange Lodge of Ontario West
Glazier says the Toronto march has nothing to do with sectarianism but admits the parades in Northern Ireland — where they originated in the 1700s — are intended to provoke the Catholics.
http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2009/07/11/10098316-sun.html
To the idiot who posted all the GAA/republican links.
Most of the players are not terrorists, they’re generally thick culchie idiots. However, most fans agree that the symbolic links to militant republicanism need to be severed immediately.
Yet why sould they stop flying the tricolour? The way some people fear it and even fucking burn it would make you think if they looked at bit long enough you would turn to stone.It’s just the flag of nationalists…get over it.
Now, if i was to post all the links to loyalist terrorist links to flute bands and orangemen, id need a new fucking hard drive.
Hypocritical fool
“Most of the players are not terrorists”
therefore you do admit that some GAA players are Nationalist Terrorists.
As for the tricolour, it is *NOT* and *never* will be a neutral flag, and as such it will never be acceptable to the British citizens who inhabit this part of the UK, it is used by the GAA to put two fingers up to the British Citizens of N Ireland, when I see the tricolour, it reminds me of gerry adams carrying the coffin of a bomber begley, with his coffin draped in a blood soaked rag. But hey the GAA really don’t want loyalists in the GAA.
“Now, if i was to post all the links to loyalist terrorist links to flute bands and orangemen, id need a new fucking hard drive.”
Please don’t rage, it detracts from your already watery whataboutery.
Wondering how republican prods in the US managed to call their first naval warship the Cromwell, build a constitution based on presbyterian principles and create up with a state where parades of marching bands led by policemen and solidiers are regarded as inclusive and fun for all the family.
The day on which we trim the Virginia creeper back off the windows.
(Cos it’s always a holiday, and usually sunny, and by this time of year the house needs a haircut.)
Overheard in the golf club bar: “It’s not that we couldn’t afford to rent the gite in the Dordogne during August, you understand (even though it would be nearly twice as expensive), it’s just that we simply have to get away from this dreadful Twelfth business.”
The BBC says what the 12th means:
The Fire and Rescue Service received more than 100 calls and responded to 80 incidents during 11th night bonfires.
Some houses and other buildings had to be cooled by firefighters because they were close to bonfires
This is carrying on far too long. Can we not cut it down a bit by asking, “In one word, what does the 12th mean to you?” ?
On reflection, perhaps not.
The BBC says what the 12th means:
The police have arrested more 91 people
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8146532.stm
@ Anne Warren
Glastonbury – 116 arrests
whats your point got to do with anything on here?
More of…
There is an idiot stealing someone else’s id to make their own points. Ignore…
Ah just a quick update from my iphone folks as I sit in the glorious Belfast sun, watching the truly glorious 12th, and not a neanderthal hoop wearing thug in sight…ahh heaven (carlsberg don’t do idyllic days but….)
91 arrests at oxegen, now we know where all the nationalists go over the 12th, 91 arrested, drugs, vomit, pissing on peoples tents, stealing, gosh these really are the cream of irish society. I guarantee there wont be 91 arrests at all the 12th parades today
, but it wouldn’t surprise me if 91 violent nationalists were arrested buring halls, planting bombs, illegal protests etc etc.
But don’t take my word for it, heres it from the horses mouth.
http://www.peoplesrepublicofcork.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-77007.html
I wonder what the nationalist outcry if this behaviour occurred at the dignified 12, I wonder indeed. hear hear
“In one word, what does the 12th mean to you?” ?
Repartition
The 12th is an expression of ethnic fear by a minority community who feels culturally isolated and hated in their own country of Ireland.
So they express that fear through anger and confrontation to prove to themselves and their perceived enemies (Catholics) that they won’t be bullied or ever afraid to display their heritage to the large majority Catholic population of Ireland.
republic of connaught ,
‘So they express that fear through anger and confrontation to prove to themselves and their perceived enemies (Catholics) that they won’t be bullied or ever afraid to display their heritage to the large majority Catholic population of Ireland.’
True but it’s not just that . Some of them also believe in their superstitious ‘religion’ just as much as catholics believe in their superstitious religion .Some also like to dress up in bowler hats , purple cloaks and bend the knee to their monarch , beat on a drum, have a bonfire , and listen to an improving sermon in a field .
Some also enjoy the day off , a few pints and a good time
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Now that the papists have decided not to outbreed them, and left reunification to later generations if ever, the orangeman has lost his/her ‘fear’.
Just as well -r\fear is not a good basis on which to build mutual trust.
A pain in the ass.
“I guarantee there wont be 91 arrests at all the 12th parades today
, but it wouldn’t surprise me if 91 violent nationalists were arrested buring halls, planting bombs, illegal protests etc etc.”
sadly my earlier prediction has came to bear fruit
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8148955.stm
anne warren what does this mean to you ?