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“The community is totally opposed to this event..”

Thu 31 July 2008, 8:08pm

Echoes of St James’? The BBC report an “attack on the home of of a community worker” in the Dunclug estate in Ballymena after the “removal of bonfire material” intended to mark the anniversary of internment. Sinn Féin MLA Daithí McKay, and SF Cllr Pádraig Mc Shane, claim to have been assaulted in the area this morning and blame “criminal and anti social elements who are using this bonfire as a cover for other activities”, adding “The community is totally opposed to this event”. And the Ballymena Times have interviewed the “community worker”, Barry Gordon – who as Chairman of the Dunclug Partnership Group welcomed the 2006 announcement of a £4.75 million funding package for the estate – and describe last night’s events as “believed to be dissident-republican led”. The report also notes

A large number of police officers and a helicopter were deployed to help defuse the tense standoff at the home of Barry Gordon which lasted from 11.00pm until almost 2.00am.

Adds Interestingly, although the Sinn Féin press statement identifies him as a councillor, in the BBC Newsline video report Pádraig McShane – who actually bears the brunt of the assault after Daithí McKay is initially punched – is only identified as a “community worker” and, as in the Ballymena Times report, as Chairman of the Dunclug Residents Association. But wasn’t he elected to Moyle District Council, to represent the Glens area, in a by-election in December last year after SF’s Marie McKeegan resigned her seat? Anyway, with the assailant clearly visible in the footage, I trust that Mr McKay and Mr McShane will be pressing charges? Update A 21-year-old Ballymena man has been charged with assault, disorderly behaviour and affray.And as Newton Emerson argued previously

Because community implies grassroots legitimacy it is an ideal disguise for such top-down exercises in social control. Being so deliberately ill-defined it is also a tricky disguise to unmask. But unmask it we must if we are not to be told who we are, what we are, how to think and where to think it by everyone anxious to group us under their own agendas. A fair society, as St Augustine observed, must comprise one community of law.

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Comments (280)

  1. Marie says:

    Paddy

    to be on a residents committe you need to be a resident. Domocracy? More like Undemocratic means of election. And do you normally insult people you do not know?

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  2. paddy says:

    ‘Domocracy?’ What’s that? Told you it was alien territory for you, Marie….

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  3. Marie says:

    Paddy….typo have you never had that problem or are you perfect?

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  4. paddy says:

    ‘Paddy….typo have you never had that problem or are you perfect? ‘

    Err…,enjoyed your witty repartee and incisive social commentary, Mawee, but that’s enough excitement for one night.

    Now run off and throw a few more tyres on the boney before you get wired into the WKD-Night, night or nite nite as you might say.

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  5. Marie says:

    Paddy awat and catch yerself on

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  6. pfhl says:

    Marie,

    I am disturbed that the thing you found wrong with this story was cllr mcShane was not from Dunclug.

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  7. Marie says:

    I’ve found lots wrong with this story not only the fact that McShane is not from Dunclug. Read back over the pages and see the comments Paddy

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  8. Gareth says:

    Another thing that we have learned from this thread (and especially from the bebo profiles) is that various Ballymena schools need to redouble their efforts in teaching their pupils the very basics of literacy.

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  9. austin says:

    Really, Gareth, Marie has now learnt the alphabet at school,, A,B,C,.. W,K,D,-easy, innit?

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  10. R.A.L. says:

    Marie,where is smiley from!!!!!!!!!!!!Cloughmills if i can remember,also are you with him to “CELEBRATE” internment?catch yourselfs on you were all in nappies when the war was on and the ceasefire called,call yourself Republicans your an embarassment to the men and women who fought and died for Ireland and belive you me i done my time as well.I dont suppose there for realeasing a ballad about the brave men o Ballymena lol.

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  11. slug says:

    Dunclug is actually a fairly small estate and its possible that this is a generational thing, as time goes on the people causing the problem will grow old and the estate return to normal. Very sad at the moment and as someone who lives locally I feel very sorry for the people who live there who have to suffer from anti-social elements bringing down their community. Some of the good people have moved out.

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  12. Garibaldy says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7542155.stm

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  13. nectar says:

    R.A.L i bet you were a real hero oh you send shivers down my spine.

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  14. Marie says:

    R.A.I.

    catch yourselfs on you were all in nappies when the war was on and the ceasefire called,call yourself Republicans your an embarassment to the men and women who fought and died for Ireland and belive you me i done my time as well.

    In nappies? I was when the Officials went on ceasfire lol lol lol Is there no “code of silence” R.A.I.? I mind when you couldn’t talk to family about what your role was and now you can post it all over the internet? lol lol lol the ones that slabber about what they did are usually the ones that ran and hid when something was asked of them away and catch yersefl on

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  15. R.A.L. says:

    At least we kept it quite til the war was over marie not post it on our bebo pages,tell me do you look up to these clowns?do you really call them Republicans?Do you know real Republicans that “CELEBRATE” internment?
    Nectar i was only explaining my point i didnt class myself a hero but i belived in what i was doing,ask smiley and co if they belive,thanks.

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  16. John says:

    Nectar after reading all the posts it seems to me that you justify the attacks on sf are you oneof the boys involved by any chance and if so why not use your name.

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  17. Marie says:

    RAI

    At least we kept it quite til the war was over marie not post it on our bebo pages,tell me do you look up to these clowns?do you really call them Republicans?Do you know real Republicans that “CELEBRATE” internment?

    Jaysis is Ireland free??? Did I miss that one? A very wise man once said, Ireland unfree shall never be at peace. Just because some people surrendered to the British in exchange for the queen’s shilling doesn’t mean the war is over. I look up to no one, and look down on no one either. I have better things to do than partake in your slander of people who dont’ agree with psf policy. You see, I worry about myself and not about what other people are doing or saying. I speak for myself and don’t follow anyone like a sheep. Thats all I’m seeing on here. There are many people I would refuse to call Republican for what they have done to the POWs, and to lads like Paul Quinn, Robert McCartney, Andy Kearney, Michael Magee, etc etc etc. I don’t think I need to go on with the long list do I?

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  18. pfhl says:

    Marie,

    I’ve found lots wrong with this story not only the fact that McShane is not from Dunclug. Read back over the pages and see the comments Paddy
    Posted by Marie on Aug 04, 2008 @ 08:56 PM

    I looked back over previous pages and did not notice a single constructive comment from yourself. Any time you have spoke it is to attack sinn fein. If you have had a read over this thread, I would ask you to answer the questions I put to other people who support this bonfire. What republican ideals does it promote? How does it promote irish unification? Lastly, How does it promote the idea of fraternity? Before you answer this question, I have never voted sinn fein and do not like the party. I am just warning you before you try to answer me by criticising sf, if thats your plan don’t bother replying. I have read it from previous posters.

    You state in your last post the war is not over. What war is exactly going on? What military targets have been hit? what significant economic targets have been hit? Under what pressure have the british crown forces been put?

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  19. John says:

    Marie have to agree with the above post,what threat are you to the British?what have you done?do you not think that the likes of them boys in Ballymena could ever hold a candle to the likes of tone or sands,for christ sake open your eyes these people are low life hoods,did you check there bebo pages?smiley whom i know lived in Cloughmills and run around all his life there with a Rangers shirt on and went to god knows how many twelth parades,they openly sell and boost about selling drugs and they are well known to be seen around Portrush on a saturday night and freely mingle with there so called loyalist enemys from across town in Ballykeel.If they want the people on there side why did they not agree to what the resisdents wanted and that was a candle lit vigil and an open air mass,the reason they didnt want the bonfire this year was as you know that last year it was a drunken drug related night and they turned on there own as the ruc/psni stayed out of the area.Tell me if they were great Republicans then why did not want to remember victims of internment by having a vigil and a mass???????cant misbehave as easey,Marie you are no Republican and i know you are a hanger on to these lads,fuck sake them boys freeing Ireland what a joke,maybe smiley can ask his brother in the british army for some guns,T.A.L.

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  20. Marie says:

    aye youse know exactly who I am and who I’m a ‘hanger on to’

    Lads, wise up and away and learn some manners before claiming sole rights to being a Republican. Saying I’m no Republican lol lol lol lol lol lol sure youse don’t even know who I am. You lot are some joke

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  21. pfhl says:

    Marie how about you answer my questions? Do not avoid the subject. How are their actions promoting republican ideals? You silence shows you up for what you are. A very uneducated bigot. Please prove me wrong.

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  22. circles says:

    Methinks Marie has the whiff of the troll.

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  23. Marie says:

    pfhl

    I am not on the PC 24/7. Did I say their actions were promoting Republicanism? A bigot??? lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

    circles

    aye you’d know all about trolls

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  24. pfhl says:

    pfhl

    I am not on the PC 24/7. Did I say their actions were promoting Republicanism? A bigot??? lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

    Posted by Marie on Aug 05, 2008 @ 07:23 PM

    If you don’t think this bonfire is republican why are you defending it? Or did you not see what the thread was about? When you keep writing lol lol lol, you mock yourself. Will you tell me how the war is still going? You did say that. Or will you avoid the question by writing ‘lol’? Please put a bit of substance in your answer.

    Go on, prove my assumptions of you wrong. Or give up posting please

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  25. waffler says:

    At least we know now that the spinners got it wrong year after year
    Were we really celebrating internment ?
    Me the fool thinking we were commemorating it.

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  26. Comrade Stalin says:

    I’m glad to see that one of the little shits was arrested and, hopefully, will now do time.

    It’s frightening that this small minority can effectively hold the community to ransom and actually put people out of their houses. It’s time that the police moved in and got medieval on the fuckers. If it were me, I’d have the cops swoop in, identify those involved, and have the Housing Executive or whoever else scatter them to the four corners of the State. If we can’t do that, we need legislation that allows us to do it.

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  27. Observer says:

    Here did anyone notice Smiley’s top when he was being interviewed, it says “Forward thinking” LOL!!!

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  28. John says:

    waffler your name says it all,it was your heroes from dunclug that wanted to “CELEBRATE” internment,i take it you are one of them or maybe even your mi5 agent that recruited them Paddy Murray.

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  29. JB says:

    [see commenting policy - edited moderator]

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  30. waffler says:

    Dear John
    Please keep ur hair on.
    My hero`s are in the ground. Most likely some of them set up by the likes of paddy murray.
    As for the name, do you not like it.
    Suggestions welcome.

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