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Addicted to negotiations?

Wed 4 June 2008, 11:09pm

Ken Reid’s got some good detail on the outline of ‘the deal’ (which isn’t actually a deal, yet). Robinson gets to be FM tomorrow, but then external talks begin on a range of subjects. Most of these comprise Sinn Fein’s frustrated shopping list, with policing and justice at the top of the list, and “education, the Maze Prison complex, the future of the Irish Language Act and the viability of the mandatory form of executive also on the agenda”. This last is an insertion from the DUP, which suggests they may looking to up the price of any future deal.
The negotiations, will only include the ‘smoking break’ partners in the Executive, Sinn Fein and the DUP (the others must wait outside in ‘the corridor’). Downing Street will play host on Friday. The fact that policing and justice are back on an official agenda, may help calm some jangling nerves within the SF. More importantly perhaps: it usefully resets the problem outside the highly problematic question of dates. And it gives the SF leadership a ‘strategy’ to present to party activists, after last month’s timetable expired without the promised delivery.

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  1. You should try some honesty Willowfield.

    Census figures weren’t the only figures I cited, although the fact that number of people saying they have knowledge is growing from census to census is important to note. I pointed to the Millward Brown survey, the results of which were consistent with the Census in that 10% of the NI population said they watched Irish language programmes on TV. I pointed to the growth in the number of children attending Irish medium schools and the growth in demand for schools throughout NI. That paints a picture which is very clear to those whose vision isn’t obscured by prejudice – the Irish language community in NI is on the up despite all the attempts by unionists to do it down. It won’t be suppressed….

    I haven’t gone away you know, Willowfield…..

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  2. Ahem says:

    Of course you haven’t. You’re still here. This time making the case for gaeilge by, er, comparing yourself to Gerry Adams’ infamous remark about the Provisional IRA. Golly, it’s almost as if in every post you made, you somehow managed to intertwine pretended affection for gaeilge with monomaniacal assertion of Republican prejudices. Who’d have guessed?

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  3. willowfield says:

    Census figures weren’t the only figures I cited

    Oops, sorry, there was also the people who tuned in occasionally to Gaelic TV!

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  4. willowfield says:

    Concubar

    Have you retracted your allegations against me, or did the retraction and apology relate only to the sectarian abuse?

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  5. No and I won’t. You’re a dishonest debater whose argument has no integrity whatsoever. Your rants amount to trolling of the lowest order and I won’t waste any more of my time with you or your partner in trollery, Ahem.

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  6. Ahem says:

    Tremendous work Connie! That’s the way to advance your genuine and sincere interest in ‘Irish’. The friends you’ve won the language on this thread with your smears, abuse and political hi-jacking! As your leader almost said, well done Concubhar!

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  7. Coming from you, Ahem, I’ll take that as a compliment.

    Your own generosity of spirit, your sense of fair play and your ‘céad míle fáílte’ to diverse opinions and cultures is undoubtedly something trollery considers an asset…..

    Come back to debate when you’re grown up….

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  8. willowfield says:

    Concubar

    Have you retracted your allegations against me, or did the retraction and apology relate only to the sectarian abuse?

    No and I won’t. You’re a dishonest debater whose argument has no integrity whatsoever.

    This is outrageous. You have made scurrilous, unfounded, allegations against me which you refuse to retract, and then you call me dishonest! I challenge you now to cite one instance ever on Slugger where I have been dishonest.

    You’re a pathetic character, completely lacking in integrity, who prefers to engage in exaggerations and unfounded allegations, rather than in honest debate.

    Utterly pathetic. A schoolboy would offer a more mature discussion.

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  9. Ahem says:

    He’s a Republican Willow. What more can you expect? He no more cares about ‘Irish’ than he does about Pluto. And he’s been all too well shown up on this thread for what he is. A canting sectarian, keen to lie about those he dislikes, and utterly indifferent to the collateral damage he thereby does to the things he’s pretending to care about (in this case, supposedly apolitical linguistic advocacy). No one who truly cared about ‘Irish’ could possibly have put in the performance Connie has (on this, and countless other threads). But then of course he gives not one hoot for gaeilge – this was always about advancing his Republican political obsessions, and to hell with anything else. You’ve done good work in exposing him Willow and you should be happy with that.

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