Comments on: Spotlight on Paisley… http://sluggerotoole.com/2008/02/07/spotlight-on-paisley/ Conversation, politics and stray insights Sun, 27 May 2012 00:18:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: lib2016 http://sluggerotoole.com/2008/02/07/spotlight-on-paisley/comment-page-1/#comment-205995 lib2016 Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:07:31 +0000 #comment-205995 Unionism's problem is that they need to find ways to co-operate with nationalists after all the years of refusing to do so. It would be all too easy to gloat but the fact is that on the ground people already knew that it had become unavoidable by the time of the last election and gave the DUP a mandate to do so. The unionist and especially the loyalist voter has accepted powersharing with the nationalist voter's choice, which is Sinn Fein at the moment. This isn't Belfast Corporation in 1985 when beating up your political opponent was an acceptable way to behave, that policy is as dead as the Orange Order's claim to march wherever it likes. The leadership of the DUP, whichever of them comes out on top, has already accepted the need for a compromise position and knows that the governments have left them with no choice. Sinn Fein made it clear long ago that they could work with anyone in the DUP so that's not a problem. Only unionists could suggest that being rude to the people one has to deal with daily is a political principle or even a reasonable way to behave. Have the UUP been taken over by a collective deathwish? Unionism’s problem is that they need to find ways to co-operate with nationalists after all the years of refusing to do so. It would be all too easy to gloat but the fact is that on the ground people already knew that it had become unavoidable by the time of the last election and gave the DUP a mandate to do so.

The unionist and especially the loyalist voter has accepted powersharing with the nationalist voter’s choice, which is Sinn Fein at the moment. This isn’t Belfast Corporation in 1985 when beating up your political opponent was an acceptable way to behave, that policy is as dead as the Orange Order’s claim to march wherever it likes. The leadership of the DUP, whichever of them comes out on top, has already accepted the need for a compromise position and knows that the governments have left them with no choice. Sinn Fein made it clear long ago that they could work with anyone in the DUP so that’s not a problem.

Only unionists could suggest that being rude to the people one has to deal with daily is a political principle or even a reasonable way to behave. Have the UUP been taken over by a collective deathwish?

]]> By: Insider http://sluggerotoole.com/2008/02/07/spotlight-on-paisley/comment-page-1/#comment-205979 Insider Sat, 09 Feb 2008 05:43:28 +0000 #comment-205979 Robo will not be challenged. In DUP terms he has grown as Paisley has deflated. The DUP with Robinson as leader will shave another layer off the UUP and will stop the edgy feeling about relationship with SF. One thing for sure - he will not be a chuckle brother. Robo will not be challenged. In DUP terms he has grown as Paisley has deflated. The DUP with Robinson as leader will shave another layer off the UUP and will stop the edgy feeling about relationship with SF. One thing for sure – he will not be a chuckle brother.

]]> By: Insider http://sluggerotoole.com/2008/02/07/spotlight-on-paisley/comment-page-1/#comment-205976 Insider Sat, 09 Feb 2008 05:39:33 +0000 #comment-205976 Porlock - Does it really matter? Porlock – Does it really matter?

]]> By: Impartial Reporter http://sluggerotoole.com/2008/02/07/spotlight-on-paisley/comment-page-1/#comment-205867 Impartial Reporter Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:46:30 +0000 #comment-205867 Hi All, The Alliance Party have arranged a press conference for Monday morning at 11.30 to announce a defection (from the SDLP as it happens). Anyone know the name? I’m being told its the chair of a constituency association or district council. Porlock Posted by Porlock on Feb 08, 2008 @ 01:05 PM I've heard speculation that a number of journalists think the person who is defecting to Alliance is from the Ulster Unionist Party. Hi All,

The Alliance Party have arranged a press conference for Monday morning at 11.30 to announce a defection (from the SDLP as it happens).

Anyone know the name? I’m being told its the chair of a constituency association or district council.

Porlock

Posted by Porlock on Feb 08, 2008 @ 01:05 PM

I’ve heard speculation that a number of journalists think the person who is defecting to Alliance is from the Ulster Unionist Party.

]]> By: Porlock http://sluggerotoole.com/2008/02/07/spotlight-on-paisley/comment-page-1/#comment-205849 Porlock Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:05:29 +0000 #comment-205849 Hi All, The Alliance Party have arranged a press conference for Monday morning at 11.30 to announce a defection (from the SDLP as it happens). Anyone know the name? I'm being told its the chair of a constituency association or district council. Porlock Hi All,

The Alliance Party have arranged a press conference for Monday morning at 11.30 to announce a defection (from the SDLP as it happens).

Anyone know the name? I’m being told its the chair of a constituency association or district council.

Porlock

]]> By: willowfield http://sluggerotoole.com/2008/02/07/spotlight-on-paisley/comment-page-1/#comment-205801 willowfield Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:13:05 +0000 #comment-205801 <i> the Martyr’s Memorial </i> Is it not Martyrs’ Memorial, i.e. dedicated to more than one martyr? the Martyr’s Memorial

Is it not Martyrs’ Memorial, i.e. dedicated to more than one martyr?

]]> By: Pounder http://sluggerotoole.com/2008/02/07/spotlight-on-paisley/comment-page-1/#comment-205784 Pounder Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:02:48 +0000 #comment-205784 Sinn Fein also said they'd not allow student fees to be raised, yet when the time came to vote a large number of them dissapeared and didn't vote thus allowing their allies in the DUP to have their way. Shinners are very good at saying one thing then doing another. Sinn Fein also said they’d not allow student fees to be raised, yet when the time came to vote a large number of them dissapeared and didn’t vote thus allowing their allies in the DUP to have their way.

Shinners are very good at saying one thing then doing another.

]]> By: Butterknife http://sluggerotoole.com/2008/02/07/spotlight-on-paisley/comment-page-1/#comment-205780 Butterknife Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:42:47 +0000 #comment-205780 <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7233617.stm"><b> MLAs 'to receive £52,000 salary'</b></a> Paisley Jnr can leave his daddy's employment now that MLAs may get a pay rise ... SF are the only ones to say NO this time :) MLAs ‘to receive £52,000 salary’
Paisley Jnr can leave his daddy’s employment now that MLAs may get a pay rise …
SF are the only ones to say NO this time :)

]]> By: Pounder http://sluggerotoole.com/2008/02/07/spotlight-on-paisley/comment-page-1/#comment-205754 Pounder Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:21:52 +0000 #comment-205754 Dodds may indeed have enough ego himself to challenge for leadership, but he will fail, hard. Robo is too secure, has a better profile at the moment, and is a much better politician in general. From my part I actually wish Dodds was a stronger challenger and, sometimes, that Junior wasn't such a greedy stupid pillock, then when the eventual battle for DUP leadership came up the party had a good chance of splitting or atleast fracturing a bit, as is the nature of Unionist parties when they get too big. Dodds may indeed have enough ego himself to challenge for leadership, but he will fail, hard. Robo is too secure, has a better profile at the moment, and is a much better politician in general.

From my part I actually wish Dodds was a stronger challenger and, sometimes, that Junior wasn’t such a greedy stupid pillock, then when the eventual battle for DUP leadership came up the party had a good chance of splitting or atleast fracturing a bit, as is the nature of Unionist parties when they get too big.

]]> By: joeCanuck http://sluggerotoole.com/2008/02/07/spotlight-on-paisley/comment-page-1/#comment-205693 joeCanuck Fri, 08 Feb 2008 01:15:37 +0000 #comment-205693 I guess you've just put yourself in the firing line for the first thunderbolt, Watchman. Suggest you buy a tin foil hat. I guess you’ve just put yourself in the firing line for the first thunderbolt, Watchman.
Suggest you buy a tin foil hat.

]]> By: The Watchman http://sluggerotoole.com/2008/02/07/spotlight-on-paisley/comment-page-1/#comment-205685 The Watchman Fri, 08 Feb 2008 00:41:12 +0000 #comment-205685 "Interesting analysis, Watchman. So convinced is he that he is invincible, that recently Papa Doc has been warning critics within the church that they may suffer divine retribution if they attack “the Lord’s anointed” ie himself." I'm not surprised to hear that from the old booby. What amazes me is that Paisley is so full of personal egotism (a sin in itself) that he puts himself in a Pope-like position where anyone who challenges him is challenging God's "Anointed One". It's all rubbish of course and Papa Doc is now just a rambling flip-flopper. “Interesting analysis, Watchman. So convinced is he that he is invincible, that recently Papa Doc has been warning critics within the church that they may suffer divine retribution if they attack “the Lord’s anointed” ie himself.”

I’m not surprised to hear that from the old booby. What amazes me is that Paisley is so full of personal egotism (a sin in itself) that he puts himself in a Pope-like position where anyone who challenges him is challenging God’s “Anointed One”. It’s all rubbish of course and Papa Doc is now just a rambling flip-flopper.

]]> By: Paul P http://sluggerotoole.com/2008/02/07/spotlight-on-paisley/comment-page-1/#comment-205678 Paul P Fri, 08 Feb 2008 00:17:25 +0000 #comment-205678 "Jim Allister too, inflects a subtle hint that there are people outside the party who might well move into the DUP once the Paisley leadership is gone." Who do you think this is? “Jim Allister too, inflects a subtle hint that there are people outside the party who might well move into the DUP once the Paisley leadership is gone.”

Who do you think this is?

]]> By: Interested http://sluggerotoole.com/2008/02/07/spotlight-on-paisley/comment-page-1/#comment-205628 Interested Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:01:15 +0000 #comment-205628 Whilst Robinson is next in line to take-over as soon as the big man steps as side. I wouldn't rule out Dodds making it become a leadership battle. Whilst Robinson is next in line to take-over as soon as the big man steps as side.

I wouldn’t rule out Dodds making it become a leadership battle.

]]> By: Greenflag http://sluggerotoole.com/2008/02/07/spotlight-on-paisley/comment-page-1/#comment-205617 Greenflag Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:29:47 +0000 #comment-205617 'Just as well he didn’t go in for football management.' Now theres a thought - Paisley a.k.a God as Northern Ireland's manager . With God on their side how could they lose? I can already see the notice boards on the bethels of Belfast plastered with ' Jesus saves but Paisley scores ' ‘Just as well he didn’t go in for football management.’

Now theres a thought – Paisley a.k.a God as Northern Ireland’s manager . With God on their side how could they lose?

I can already see the notice boards on the bethels of Belfast plastered with

‘ Jesus saves but Paisley scores ‘

]]> By: Gréagóir O' Frainclín http://sluggerotoole.com/2008/02/07/spotlight-on-paisley/comment-page-1/#comment-205610 Gréagóir O' Frainclín Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:15:45 +0000 #comment-205610 The Lord seems to be a very poor judge of character; a dithering Abraham, Moses with the poor sense of direction, the traitor Judus, meglomaniac Paul, etc... He can sure pick 'em. Just as well he didn't go in for football management. The Lord seems to be a very poor judge of character; a dithering Abraham, Moses with the poor sense of direction, the traitor Judus, meglomaniac Paul, etc… He can sure pick ‘em.

Just as well he didn’t go in for football management.

]]> By: Chuckle Vision http://sluggerotoole.com/2008/02/07/spotlight-on-paisley/comment-page-1/#comment-205600 Chuckle Vision Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:47:42 +0000 #comment-205600 Interesting analysis, Watchman. So convinced is he that he is invincible, that recently Papa Doc has been warning critics within the church that they may suffer divine retribution if they attack "the Lord's anointed" ie himself. Interesting analysis, Watchman. So convinced is he that he is invincible, that recently Papa Doc has been warning critics within the church that they may suffer divine retribution if they attack “the Lord’s anointed” ie himself.

]]> By: Mick Fealty http://sluggerotoole.com/2008/02/07/spotlight-on-paisley/comment-page-1/#comment-205597 Mick Fealty Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:42:04 +0000 #comment-205597 So forensic in your attention to detail Darth. I'm saying nothing... So forensic in your attention to detail Darth. I’m saying nothing…

]]> By: The Watchman http://sluggerotoole.com/2008/02/07/spotlight-on-paisley/comment-page-1/#comment-205590 The Watchman Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:20:08 +0000 #comment-205590 On the evening of 17 November, 2 days after the Anglo-Irish Agreement, Ian Paisley compared Mrs Thatcher to Sennacherib, king of the Assyrians. (As all Sluggerites will know from Bible Class, Sennacherib was king of the Assyrians who tried to attack Jerusalem in the reign of King Hezekiah and whose army was decimated by the Angel of the Lord.) Paisley noted that Hezekiah was slain in the temple of his god by his two sons, and implied that Mrs Thatcher's political fate might be similar. He was uncannily prescient, for that is exactly how the Iron Lady fell. Now, all these years later, I wonder if Papa Doc will be forced out the same way, slain by his political sons. On the evening of 17 November, 2 days after the Anglo-Irish Agreement, Ian Paisley compared Mrs Thatcher to Sennacherib, king of the Assyrians. (As all Sluggerites will know from Bible Class, Sennacherib was king of the Assyrians who tried to attack Jerusalem in the reign of King Hezekiah and whose army was decimated by the Angel of the Lord.) Paisley noted that Hezekiah was slain in the temple of his god by his two sons, and implied that Mrs Thatcher’s political fate might be similar. He was uncannily prescient, for that is exactly how the Iron Lady fell. Now, all these years later, I wonder if Papa Doc will be forced out the same way, slain by his political sons.

]]> By: darth rumsfeld http://sluggerotoole.com/2008/02/07/spotlight-on-paisley/comment-page-1/#comment-205549 darth rumsfeld Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:11:14 +0000 #comment-205549 "The most surprising thing about the programme was that Mike Fealty has a suit!!!" Not so fast. It only proves he has a jacket- and the tie might be a clip on! “The most surprising thing about the programme was that Mike Fealty has a suit!!!”

Not so fast. It only proves he has a jacket- and the tie might be a clip on!

]]> By: Mick Fealty http://sluggerotoole.com/2008/02/07/spotlight-on-paisley/comment-page-1/#comment-205520 Mick Fealty Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:31:39 +0000 #comment-205520 bp, I like to keep people guessing... bp,

I like to keep people guessing…

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