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Tue 4 December 2007, 10:00pm

The Irish Times front page today carries the image of the First and deputy First Ministers wielding the gavel at the New York Stock Exchange yesterday as, to quote the Guardian’s Michael White, the “Chuckle Brothers head for White House”. However, the reality, as pointed out by the BBC’s Mark Devenport, is that it’s just a staged photo – the real opening and the real closing of the NYSE on Monday was carried out separately by two different guests.. both Chairmen, Presidents and CEOs of their respective insurance and investment companies.

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  1. joeCanuck says:

    Omigod.
    Is Marty about to clobber Ian?

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  2. El Matador says:

    First we had the Chuckle Brothers impression. Now they’re moving on to Timmy Mallet impersonations…

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  3. skinbop says:

    the nasdaq is where its at anyway from inward investment potential standpoint…

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  4. Outsider says:

    So why did junior have to go as well, I presume he paid for the trip himself and the bill will not be left to the taxpayer.

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  5. Outsider says:

    I also meant to ask where was Sluggers coverage of the ABOD’s annual shutting of the gates celebrations? I’m sure if there was trouble at it it wouldn’t have been too long before it was covered.

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  6. joeCanuck says:

    It went off very peacefully, Outsider, before, during and after.
    Just goes to show what can be achieved if you talk to your neighbours and treat everyone with respect.

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  7. pfhl says:

    I wonder did wall street remember the shinners leftist tendancies, did they see che’s festival in Dublin? That will really get the Big wigs in wall street wanting to invest here. Nice point Joe just shows where we can go if we are open to discussion

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  8. Outsider says:

    I know it went of peacefully Joe as I stated in my previous post, my question to Slugger is why has there not been any coverage of a major Loyalist event?

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  9. The Watchman says:

    Moral of the story for Papa and Baby: when you sell out your country, at least there’s always a pay-back. Orange juices all round.

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  10. cynic says:

    Wall Street eh? The epitome of capitalism, marty’s a long way from republican socialism isn’t he?!

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  11. Dread Cthulhu says:

    Outsider: “So why did junior have to go as well, I presume he paid for the trip himself and the bill will not be left to the taxpayer. ”

    Mayhap Big Ian couldn’t find himself a sitter… and why, in a land infested by quangos, would you suspect that there was no junketeering?

    Outsider: “I know it went of peacefully Joe as I stated in my previous post, my question to Slugger is why has there not been any coverage of a major Loyalist event? ”

    For the same reason that, short of major injury or death, “Dog bites man” is never a headline. The hoary chestnut about “if it bleeds, it leads” didn’t become a mantra of the newsroom for nothing.

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  12. harry says:

    do any of these us companies than come here, once their tax breaks run out, do they stay??

    is there tax incentive for them to come here?

    i am thinking of the Xerox village in dundalk that is now lying empty cause these americans unrooted and went to the next country offering tax break.

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  13. kidso says:

    Im freezing I ran out of heating oil, its christmas time. 500 litres will cost me £250 with “Economy” Fuel why cant we have some help with heating instead of trying to get millionaires in to our country to extract profits from us. DUP/SF in the heart of Capitalism? Its anti-people anti- socialist.

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  14. ulsterfan says:

    kidso
    You are paying too much for your heating oil.
    Even with the latest rise it should not be more than 40p per litre.

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  15. kidso says:

    Ulsterfan

    Tell me where to get it cheaper mate. Id really appreciate it. Its not delivered / paid for yet. seriously though with these prices and the water rates and all. Id need to rob a bank :)

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  16. ulsterfan says:

    kidso

    I got 700 litres on Mon and paid £298 and thought this was too much!
    Look up yellow pages and phone around various suppliers.
    It is not a buyers market.
    Good luck.

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  17. kidso says:

    ulsterfan

    thats 8p a litre cheaper though they did say the price might drop by friday when im due to pay. who’d you buy it from?

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  18. kidso says:

    sorry for interrupting the thread here. I just hop Big Ian and Wee Martin are well warm and wrapped up.

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  19. timelord says:

    “…it’s just a staged photo…”

    Oh the irony! ;-)

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  20. pith says:

    I am moved almost to tears to see these two men of peace grasp the gavel between them. Pete Seeger your song needs no If anymore.

    Alternatively, has anyone got any advice on how to get boke out of the corners of my computer screen? I have tried a cocktail stick but it doesn’t work.

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  21. J Kelly says:

    its great to see democrats like elmat and co enjoying the outworkings of democracy…tell the truth you really wish it were mark and reg up there..dream on

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  22. abucs says:

    Ah, it’s a good sign.

    Still, i can’t see the photo being highlighted on the next DUP or Sinn Fein election manifesto. :o )

    But it’s getting there.

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  23. joeCanuck says:

    Toothbrush is better than a cocktail stick. Use it with foaming toilet cleaner.
    Disclaimer: not responsible for any or all damage.

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  24. Danny O'Connor says:

    If I had a hammer i’d chuckle in the morning,i’d chuckle in the evening all over this land.I wonder if they will tell Bush to support the democratically elected government of (palestine)N.Ireland and how successfully prisoners (guantanamo)can have a real role in peacemaking.

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  25. mnob says:

    Harry – Dundalk is in the ROI they are the ones using low tax to attract industry – though you are quite right in pointing out the danger. Microsoft pay something like $350 million a year in taxes to ROI, do Irish workers really add that much value ?

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  26. Free Agent says:

    Is this the ‘One Divine Hammer’ that the Breeders used to ‘bang’ on about?

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  27. Mike says:

    Tell you what, if that photo of Paisley in the 1980s with the “Smash Sinn Fein” mallett is online, there’s a brilliant contrast to be made with this pic…

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  28. CincinnatiDave says:

    From a “Vote DUP – Smash Sinn Fein” election poster… to “having a smashing time with Sinn Fein” postcard… times have certainly changed.

    As for news here in the US this did not get a mention as far as I could tell last night on the evening news which isn’t saying a lot. Without the web & the BBC on PBS I would be lost.

    IRA to most Americans & certainly on Wall St. means only one thing: Individual Retirement Account.
    “Is your IRA fully funded this year Sir” always brings a smile at the bank, as do the IRA billboards…

    Maybe they can help bring investment but right now China & India are the plays that matter here. With the dollar so weak Europe is ever more expensive for US companies.

    I hope they succeed but its a tough sell.

    David

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  29. El Matador says:

    J Kelly-

    “its great to see democrats like elmat and co enjoying the outworkings of democracy…tell the truth you really wish it were mark and reg up there..dream on”

    Sorry, I didn’t realise we were banned from making a joke about Les Frères de Chuckle. And you speak of democracy? I know you’re still getting your head around the concept, so I’ll let you away with it this time.

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  30. URQUHART says:

    Tell you what, if that photo of Paisley in the 1980s with the “Smash Sinn Fein” mallett is online, there’s a brilliant contrast to be made with this pic…

    Posted by Mike on Dec 05, 2007 @ 11:21 AM

    Just beat me to it Mike

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  31. URQUHART says:

    http://warincontext.org/uploaded_images/paisleysmashsf3tx-732114.jpg

    Please please please Pete, can you put this image up on the original post?

    Pretty please?

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  32. Ahem says:

    I wonder if the Crock even knows it was staged? My suspicion is that late period Brezhnew was more clued in about what was happening around him.

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  33. pith says:

    Urquhart,

    There are also those pictures of him with the pliers at the barbed war? We could have a whole Paisley toolbox. Too many spanners perhaps.

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  34. Briso says:

    Posted by Outsider on Dec 04, 2007 @ 06:37 PM
    >I know it went of peacefully Joe as I stated in my previous post, my question to Slugger is why
    >has there not been any coverage of a major Loyalist event?

    It was in Derry. Slugger only reports shit about Derry.

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  35. Outsider says:

    I simply thought that it would be a nice gesture from Slugger to report on this event even though there was no trouble at is, surely it was worth a blog.

    On a second note why was I banned from this site yesterday evening, was it due to my criticism of Slugger on this issue?

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  36. URQUHART says:

    A quick question Outsider, why would a report of a parade that happens every year and took place this year without incident, be considered remotely interesting?

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  37. Outsider says:

    Well their are plenty of reports on uninteresting events such as Paisleys trip to the USA to name but one and this parade is an important event in the marching calender and deserves some recognition.

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  38. RepublicanStones says:

    Outsider becuase most of the people who would care were probably at it.

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  39. Pounder says:

    I do agree that the Apprentice Boys leadership does deserve kudos. In recent years they have respected the wishes of the largly catholic population and brought things forward to suit the traders. They where the first of the protestant matching organisations to engage with residents groups and also the first to recognise the Parades Commission, even going so far as to take part in Saint Patricks day. Considering the OO and ABOD have mostly the same members in the clubs as in the lodges why the difference in how the parades went are are recieved nationalist community?

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  40. Outsider says:

    Considering the OO and ABOD have mostly the same members in the clubs as in the lodges why the difference in how the parades went are are recieved nationalist community?

    Pounder

    There was still a lot of bile shouted at the Apprentice boys in Saturday but thankfully the police did a good job in holding back the protesters who braved the pouring rain.

    However this still doesnt explain why the event didn’t warrant a mention and why I was temporarily suspended from this site yesterday.

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