We most certainly shouldnt get into the nasty business of discussing the alliance between a supposedly democratic political party and a gang of terrorists.

Move along now everone….. nothing to see here.

No, there’d still be the B Specials, doing much the same job and much, much worse.

One question for you…
Would there be a UDA if the IRA hadn’t bombed and butchered our people in the two years of the Troubles, 1969-1971, before the UDA were formed?

The UDA was born as a DEFENCE Association – an umbrella organisation for all the local defence associations that sprang up around Belfast and Londonderry in particular, to stave off nightly attacks from republicans…

I have the quotes. The first one was made by Robinson in the Assembly during an exchange with Trimble (Assembly web site and index will give you exact details)and the latter made in New York a couple of weeks ago.

Nothing to do with professionalism, by the way, just a simple courtesy to fellow debaters.

BooBoo.

If you werent so lazy youd do a bit of research and find those quotes

Oh, that one’s easy… the easy way out for not accomplishing anything with this waffle-house was to have everything tied up, nice and tidy. A unionist majority might actually be expected to accomplish something, if only by accident.

Alternately, if you think that Rev. Paisley was angling for the responsible adult role, an evenly split body would force cooperation and hard decisions.

Either way, take your pick

it really would be much more professional if you had the quote in front of you–or at least easy to hand–before attributing views to individuals.

In post 21 you have two referred to quotes, but not one specific source.

Very frustrating for the rest of us to follow what amounts, at the moment at least, to mere hearsay.

Thank you, by the way, to “deal or no deal” for your response to my question.

BooBoo

Recently, (ill dig out the exact quote) he said it would be foolish to say that progres hadnt been made on decommissioning/

So which fool is the DUP?

When pressed for the quote he was unable to provide but was confident of the date it was uttered in Parliament. That date being one when Parliament didn’t sit.

“The fact remains that the DUP’s 33 seats gave unionism a majority on the Executive. The UUP will simply be restoring a unionist majority courtesy of a Ministry via the DUP.”

While as a UUP voter I don’t like this move and conseqnet UUP associations with paramilitarism, you’re still talking rubbish.

The election in 2003 gave unionism a majority on the Executive. it produced an Assembly as follows:

DUP 30
UUP 27
SF 24
SDLP 18
Alliance 6
UKUP 1
PUP 1
Indep 1

This would have resulted in an Executive with 3 DUP, 3 UUP, 2 SF, and 2 SDLP.

The 3 defections to the DUP, giving the DUP 33 seats, did NOT create a unionist majority – all it meant that the balance was 4 DUP/2 UUP rather than 3 DUP/3 UUP. In fact it WORSENED the position of unionism as it gave SF pick of Ministerial seats ahead of the UUP (i.e. d’Hondt would have run “DUP, UUP, SF, SDLP, DUP, UUP, SF, SDLP, DUP, UUP” before Donaldson and co’s defection, and “DUP, SF, UUP, SDLP, DUP, SF, UUP, SDLP, DUP, DUP”).

Then of course the DUP’s explusion of Paul Berry gave SF the 10th ministerial seat at their own expense. The seat they previously took from the UUP thanks to the three defections.

Do tell, who is it? And what is the quote?

BooBoo

I’m not a member of any party.

Limiting the growth of Sinn Féin?

Ay right, now most voting Catholics are going to go: “Those nice Ulster Unionists only have one paramilitary representative in their ranks, so we’d better switch back to the SDLP”…

BTW, did you ever dig out that quote you claimed you had from Peter Robinson – you know, the one you said he gave in Parliament on a day when Parliament wasnt sitting.

so which faction of the DUP are you in?

The Paisley (No Deal) wing or the Robinson (Do the Deal ASAP) wing?

Did UR ever kill anyone?

You mean like the DUP and Ulster Resistance? BTW did Ulster Resistance ever decommission?

David Ervine admitted yesterday that he is the spokesman for balaclava wearing thugs. That spokesman is now within the UUP. If a member of any party had a past association (which they have moved away from) that does not mean that they are now, or the Party to which they belong is an official spokesman for a terrorist organisation.

The PUP is the UVF’s Sinn Fein – they are equivalent organisations. The UUP now has the PUP/UVF incorporated within it. That is as corrupt as incorporating Sinn Fein/IRA within it.