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McGuinness: the importance of inclusion…

Mon 23 January 2006, 2:43pm

Martin McGuinness is in Sri Lanka. In this interview he lays out what he believes are the elements of success of the Northern Irish peace process.

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  1. Kathy_C says:

    Hi all,

    MI6, Martin Ingram, I thought that is who you meant but I didn’t get the humor so I thought I was missing something and the D wasn’t for donaldson but for someone else….I find it’s always best to ask. Besides, many in America couldn’t stand Dennis Donaldson…and have been complaining about him for years so that’s why I didn’t get the pulling Americans leg thing…

    So…you’re willing to sell pups…maybe Ervine?

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  2. Skintown lad says:

    “The common enemy to both wars (America’s war of indepenedence and the Irish war of independence)…were/are the brits. I see the killing of innocent Catholic Irish peace marchers by the brit army and ask the same question…where is the british patriotism in that?”

    Again you haven’t answered my question. We aren’t talking about the Brits, we’re talking about the IRA. You made an assertion that the majority of Irish people would find vile and repugnant, and then seek to back it up by referring solely to another party’s behaviour. Effectively what you’re saying is, any horror perpetrated is excusable because we can label it is as being part of a war against the British. You are deluded.

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  3. martin ingram says:

    Kathy C

    I appreciate that Dennis was not popular but as you know he cleared a lot of the old guard out and replaced them with Adams/ FBI/ HMG authorised people. Its called a spy ring.

    Can you confirm whom the complaints were addressed to? I suppose it must have been Adams ? I wonder why Sinn Fein local members accusations and complaints were never taken seriously by him. It beggars belief. Could you comment further?

    Quote”Besides, many in America couldn’t stand Dennis Donaldson…and have been complaining about him for years”Unquote

    Martin.

    PS. The pups are very cute.

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  4. Kathy_C says:

    Hi all,

    Skintown lad, I’ve thought I have answered your question but there is obviously something else you want me to say? I see that the PIRA fought against the brits…so like I’ve said in any war there is collateral damage. Recently it has been reported that approx 100,000 people have died in Iraq …collateral damage. Now it seems that you-by your writings -are british. What do you feel about your gov’t's responsiblity with those 100,000 dead…the british gov’t is involved in Iraq ergo…there is linkage to those deaths.

    MI 6 (Martin Ingram), I have to say it does beggar belief. For years I have seen and been on the reseaving end of SF alienating American supporters. However, for my own reason’s I hung in there. Sinn Fein has taken in some regards a very pro-british line. From Alex Maskey on Dec. 15,05 stating republicans had to find, “a narrative that finds a place for the orange order,” to Gerry Kelly using himself to protect the brits in a parade…all of which I see is a pro-british agenda while SF American approach has been one to minimize and lessen the Irish American to feel that “they aren’t good enough because they don’t live there” or “that they aren’t Irish enough….”
    What cemented it for me that the british were involved in SF leadership was when SF about a year ago December in negotiations came out and said the PIRA had to give a pledge or something like that to end it’s criminality. In that one swoop…they did what your PM maggie thatcher wasn’t able to do…criminalize the IRA…and for that…I spit on any republican who had a hand in that statement.
    As a member…or former member of her majesty’service…you must be very pleased with how the SF leadership and spokespeople are helping your queen and her pm.

    ps….I’m sure the pups are cute….and I ask again…will you give up Ervine or how about a dog..will you give up a dog- one called Johnny?

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