Ingram on IRA, MI5, FBI and MI6
Radio Free Eireann runs a lengthy interview with ‘Martin Ingram’ (sound file, starts 25 minutes in). Ingram describes how informers were enlisted from within the IRA, how MI5 and the FBI cooperated in running British agents in the US (including Dennis Donaldson), how MI5 and MI6 operated in the US, what British protection was given to Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness and their failure to root out informers, the significance of American funding for IRA, and more generally how Northern Ireland undercover operations were conducted. Is he spreading disinformation? He responds to the scepticism of his detractors.
Tags: Conflict
Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Filmmaker
mischievous person, clothes sewer (custom-fit to individuals), someone who served for pay, controlling the content and flow of the film’s plot and not to forget on occasion, writing the screenplay.
Mhmmm
Just as the FRU (JSG) have a department that feeds disinformation and black propaganda to the mainstream media (witness the flood of malicious ‘informer rumour’ stories akin to Ingram’s), so too do they seek to disseminate disinformation and black propaganda into the emerging alternative Internet news streams such as Blogs. This new medium is too important to be ignored. That’s why Ingram is here. It helps to be aware of that.
Well said, Dublin (or was it Northsider?)
The Internet is the ideal forum for spreading this black propaganda and the FRU are making full use of it. Be aware that ‘Martin Ingram’ is almost certainly not the only FRU operative posting on this site. When MI is taking a battering in debate there is always somebody (typically masquerading as an Irish nationalist) who pops up to fight his corner. Sometimes his sparring partner for the evening will raise further questions prompting MI to peddle further disinformation.
Once upon a time they hid out in covert obsevation posts and drove around in unmarked cars. These days the FRU hide behind false monikers on the Internet. How times have changed!
As a former Force Recon Msrine, I know at least a little about Covert Operations…and this guy sounds like he is full of shit.
Let me get this straight. By the early 90′s, the IRA was basically winning aginst the combined forces of the British Army, the FRU and the UDA/UVF. In response to this, the British decided to “Protect Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness”. WTF…. According to this moron Ingram, the Brits also decided to allow the IRA to assassinate 30+ UDA/UVF members, dozens of RUC officers and British soldiers, and allowed them to bomb Britian over a dozen times, launch mortars at No. 10 Downing, and wreak financial chaos which ultimately forced the Brits to the negotiating table….man, that’s some strategy. Funny, in Afghanistan and Iraq, we prefered to KILL our enemies instead of protect them, I guess we have been doing it all wrong. Look, this guy is a disgruntled ex-soldier who is pissed that his side lost to the IRA’s superior battle tactics and guerilla techniques. The reason the UDA and UVF never killed Adams and McGuinness, was becuase the one time they tried, back in 87, the IRA killed 4 of the UDA and UVF’s top people, and threatened to kill more if another attempt was made. Even under FRU guidance only 15 or so IRA/Sinn Fein members were killed in the 90′s. Meanwhile over 30 UDA/UVF members were killed by the IRA and INLA in that same period. The only unit that was ever a match for the IRA was the SAS, which is the same group helping us kill REAL terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan. Ingram is a coward who would have been waxed by the IRA years ago, if they had ever wanted to waste thier time with his punk ass. As for the American connection, thier isn’t one case of MI6, MI5 or the FRU dismanteling an American arms network, most of which were controlled by NY, Chicago, Philidelphia and Boston Irish mob groups. This loser is trying to sell books, nothing more. Real operators don’t go around bragging about the shit they did, not do they reveal tactics and intelligence. You don’t hear Delta, SEAL 6 or CIA, SAD officers, talking on national media, how we target and kill Al Qaida leaders. This guy is a maggot, and he needs to admit that his side lost…pure and simple.
The leading unionist party, the DUP face a split whichever way they turn, whether they decide to accept powersharing with republicans or whether they don’t.
This is the most crucial decision faced by any political party in the last eighty years or more since NI was imposed upon the Irish people in order to avoid just this outcome.
And we’re talking about a shadowy spook and his wild unproven allegations.
Who benefits? More to the point, why are the Brits putting up such distractions to facilitate the DUP?
AUSTRALIA HAS AN OVERSEAS SPOUSE QUOTA FIXED AT 30,000 A YEAR
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PHILIP RUDDOCK is now Australia’s Attorney General.Philip Ruddock is also known as the “Walking Cadaver.”
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The following is an article from the “Sydney Morning Herald”September, 17th, 1996.
“MIGRANT LAW MAY SEPARATE MARRIED COUPLES
The Government will cap and kill applications by Australians to bring their overseas spouses into Australia a move which would see long-term separations of married couples unless the Opposition allows through the Senate tough new measures to curb applications.
The Minister for Immigration, Mr Ruddock,said the draconian move,allowable under present law but never used in relation to spouses, would help curb huge increases in applications for spouses, some of which were shams, but others ‘a fraud on Australians’.
Under present practise,applications for offshore spouses to come are allowed regardless of the quota set.Mr Ruddock wants to enforce his quota by a cap and queue regulation, making applicants after the qouta is reached to wait, possibly for months, until heading the queue for next years intake.
But in the face of Labor opposition in the Senate, he threatened to use his general cap and kill power to terminate applications made post-qouta.This would force Australians to apply again next year on equal terms with next year’s applicants, causing indefinite separations.
Mr Ruddock’s threat, which contradicts the Coalition’s strong pro-family rhetoric but is part of a clampdown on migration numbers,was denounced by Labor’s immigration spokeman, Mr Duncan Kerr, as social engineering.
The Opposition last week knocked off in the Senate one of several changes to regulations to tighten elegibility for ‘preferential family’ migration,available to spouses and aged parents.Mr Kerr told the Herald Labor would also disallow Mr Ruddock’s ‘cap and queue’ regulation.
Mr Ruddock told the Herald that if people who had already applied were allowed in,the progam would overstep this year’s 36,700 quota by about 13,000.Rather than allow an overshoot, he would use his general power under current law to cap and kill,unless Labor stopped trying to micro-manage his immigration program by disallowing regulations in the Senate.
Mr Kerr said that ‘Australians have always exercised their own choice on who they’ll marry,and I don’t believe any red-blooded Australian will allow the Government to force couples to queue up to live together.Now he’s saying if he can’t queue them he’ll cut them off.
‘If you meet and marry in January,thats OK,but if you’re a December bride or groom you mightn’t be able to get your spouse in for years.’
Mr Ruddock said he did not regard cap and terminate as the best outcome, but if it is necessary I will be applying it.
He said Labor had maintained a steady 37,000 quota for four years,before lifting it last year to 50,000.Many people had reported partners ‘walking out the door as soon as they arrive in Australia.’ ‘The fraud is being occasioned on Australians by people seeking to migrate,’ he said.
Mr Kerr blamed the increase on the wash-up of the Tiananmen Square massacre,under which Labor granted 40,000 Chinese people refugee status.But Mr Ruddock said there rises in applications accross the board, and the percentage increase was as great in England.”
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JOHN HOWARD-The Lying Rodent.John Howard wants free trade but not the free movement of people.He thinks Australias biggest assets are its sheep, coal and uranium not people.He says he has the final solution to our problems “Too many people.”
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The Blacklist
“Philip Ruddock gazetted regulations when he was Australia’s immigration minister[number S241 of 1997] to stop visitors from many countries coming to Australia and among them is Poland.[Israel is also on the list as well as the following countries-Bangladesh, Burma, Cambodia, Chile, China, Colombia, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Egypt, Fiji, Greece, Hungary, India, Iran, Jordan, Lebanon, Macedonia, Mauritius, Nauru, Pakistan, Peru, Philippines, Portugal, Romania, Samoa, Slovakia, Sri Lanka, Syria, Tonga, Turkey, Ukraine, Uruguay, Vanuatu, Vietnam and Yugoslavia].”
More at
http://nowhiteaustralia.blogspot.com/
And
http://www.country-liberal-party.com/pages/Let-Them-Drown.html
And
http://www.country-liberal-party.com/pages/LetThemLand.htm
And
http://www.country-liberal-party.com/pages/Child-abuse.htm
Martin Ingram aka Ian Hurst is a liar
The person who calls himself Martin ingram but is in fact ex Int Corps SSgt Ian Hurst (known as rocky) is a liar of the highest order. His book STEAKNIFE is almost complete fiction, as are his assertions that Martin McGUINNESS was an agent of the state. He is dementedly lying completely about his past service in FRU. He only ever served in sleepy backwaters of the Province and never came face to face with anyone except low level eyes and ears agents. He never ran STEAKNIFE or even met him. In short, his book is a complete fabrication based on god knows what. He endangers the lives of serving and former soldiers as well as civillians with his ridiculous fairy tales. Hopefull he will appear in court at some of the current inquiries and investigations so he can be shown to be the liar he really is.This story is from http://ingramis.blogspot.com/
This message is from http://jackgrantham.blogspot.com/
Hi,
Just to correct a few points if I may.
The issue about me lying to Liam Clarke first.
In a private conversation between me and Liam Clarke who was ALREADY working upon the Martin McGuinness story I DID lie to him BUT that happens day in day out between TWO JOURNALISTS TRYING TO PUT ONE OFF A STORY and to preserve the interests of the Sorces.
The following week that the World broke the J118 story broke about McGuinness the SUNDAY TIMES carried a story sourced from a senior security figure that McGuinness was an AGENT codenamed the fisherman working for MI5. I do not believe that angle but WE BOTH BELIEVE HE IS AN AGENT OF THE STATE.I repeat the Sunday Times named McGuinness as an Agent FACT .
Summary.( Smile)
Over this last six years I got it right about Seagate and the Stevens fire ( Lord Stevens confirmed that to the press)
I got it right about collusion. I wrote a piece in the Irish news dated Monday 11 12 2000 well before Lord Stens reported that institutionalised collusion would be proven.(smile)
I got it right about Notorantonio. Orde confirmed that to Charlotte Notorantonio.(smile)
I got it right about Corrigan ( I told the BIRW about that in 1999)
I got it right about Stakeknife and the role of Freddie Scappaticci ( Not many real Republicans would argue on that one )(big smile)
I stand by my claims about J118 and the BIRW have made a report about the involvement of Agents in the Human bomb strategy which was controlled by McGuinness.
I predicted Sinn Fein would join policing, I stand by the second part of my claim that both Adams and McGuinness will retire from Sinn Fein within two years. Adams for the Irish president job and McGuinness will just take a back seat and fade into the night, after all Job is done IRA decommissioned and British rule cemented by the GFA.
Have a nice day .
Martin. Slack Jack.
martın,
Do you really belıve the electorate of the RoI would elect Mr Adams to the Presıdency, he may stand for the job, but lets not get ahead of ourselves.
I have no ıdea whether you are correct about McG and you yourself have admıtted that you do not have absolute proof. However nothıng would surprıse me and I am a lıttle surprısed that no one ıs lookıng at McG and hıs mate,s recent travels, when they have been vısıtıng varıous ‘radıcal’ organısatıons actıng much as ıf they were the Harry Enfıld TV charıctor proclaımıng, ‘you dont want to do that’, on whose behalf one wonders.
True many scumbag journos lıe and decıeve to get a story out, however as ın most walks of lıfe such behavıor ıs contemptable, the more so when dealıng wıth the ıssues you have specıalızed ın sınce leavıng the Brıtısh army. Surly ıt ıs not who fırst get the news upon the table that ıs ımportant, but that the ınformatıon gets out there so that ınformers, murderers and those UK state employees that ran them come ınto the publıc lıght of day.
After all the maın reason so many of us fınd McG and Adams behavıor so wretched ıs because they both are prepared to lıe at the drop of a hat to get theır own polıtıcal way.
Regards.
Hi Mick,
The conversation between me and Liam was not an on the record conversation between a source and a Journalist but between two journalists who are working on the same story. I take your point though on working towards a common goal of the truth and I accept that it matters not who Breaks the story but that the story is published.In future I will take heed of your advice.
In respect to Mr McG. In a similar way to Freddie, very difficult to have evidence which would stand up in a court of law but myself like Father Faul know he to be an Agent because of the way certain things happened ( Faul was involved) and the way he is protected by the state.
I remain convinced as do many Republicans. Both Adams and McG have steered the goodship Irish Nationalism/ Republicanism onto the British rocks. Sooner or later the truth will surface but you can bet your last dollar that it will be after the principles have moved on to pastures new .
In respect to the following comment made by you I have to say that I enjoyed a momentary smile quote After all the maın reason so many of us fınd McG and Adams behavıor so wretched ıs because they both are prepared to lıe at the drop of a hat to get theır own polıtıcal way. unquote
Well what I would say to you and others is that you cannot say you were not warned about their long term strategy.Afterall Anybody who believed Adams when he said he could deliver a United Ireland by 2016 should be sectioned.
Martin.
PS. Mick I have lost your e mail drop me a line please.
Martın,
Am away at the moment, when I return home I wıll post you my emaıl address, although you seem to have eıther lost the skılls Betty Wındsor,s subjects paıd to have you crafted ın or got a lıttle careless of late by losıng such thıngs
Take care
It is really pathetic to see this site allowing
‘Martin Ingram’, or is it ‘Ingrammartin’?, recycle all his black propaganda about all kinds of covert operations, thanks to Jack Grantham, whoever he is, triggering a most belated response.
Nothing that ‘Martin Ingram’ or ‘Ingrammartin’ has claimed about anything has been proven. In fact, his claims about Eoin Corrigan have been igrnoed by the Smith Commision into the killings of Breen and Buchanan, perhaps explaining why ‘MI’, or is it ‘Im’?, has gotten onto his lecture box again.
And for Mick Hall to have engage in this deception is disgraceful.
And don’t expect me to engage in this sort of dreadful debate – what the site is notorious for – unless it takes on some kind of wider public relevance.
Dear Sir, Just read the post from our Force Recon Marine friend and was very intrigued! My comments are below.
I was born and brought up in Northern Ireland, in 79, I moved to London in 98 to University and studies Politics.
I current work as a political researcher to the UK parliament for a charity.
My degree thesis was “British security policy in Northern Ireland 1969-present”
A couple of observations.
The loyalists though as you say not as competent as the IRA considerably outnumbered them, there is evidence to suggest that the IRA ceasefires were helped by the IRA’s on republican community being fed up with being killed by the loyalists (something I deplored) but never the less a factor.
The IRA were highly skilled, so highly that the UK could not put away the South Armagh Brigade of the IRA until the late 90′s.
it is true that things got dicey in the early 90′s but this was only really on the surface.
The UK and RUC were never at risk of losing Northern Ireland. mainly because the majority of people in Northern Ireland want to be British.
The IRA simply didn’t factor this into their calculations over the years.
The unionists were biased, treated the Catholics badly, and the British forces in 68 and 69 ninitially did not know what to do.
When the did decide what to do they started a process of criminalisation and normalisation i.e. one can never stop every bomb and bullet by military means alone, so lets take politics out of the equation and say, look if you want to be British or you want to be Irish that is fine, just don’t do political murder.
in fact by the late 90′s even the SAS were doing arrest operations not OP/reacts (ambushes)
The dark world of informers and M16 and wider British aims e.g. Donaldson was never really tapped and we probably won’t know for some time how truly dirty the dirty war was.
Similar I am sure to the sub legal process of American rendition of terror suspects for extreme interrogation in dodgy countries, or Git-mo bay itself!
my basic point is that the Brits overall strategy was de-escalation and containment. They let the terrorist burn themselves out.
Yes the Baltic exchange bomb distorted the UK insurance market, yes the Brits did not want bombs in London, but by the late 90′s the IRA were in retreat.
The problem with the war on terror is just that!
Its been called a war.
The IRA called themselves an Army, i.e. state legitimacy, a nation within a nation, freedom fighters etc, even though there is already an Irish govt in the Dail in Dublin.
Its all about community support and national legitimacy, Hamas, American war of independence, the ancient Britons against the roman’s, the Jewish ‘terrorists’ against the British in Palestine, ETA against Spain, its all about rival government and political legitimacy.
We need to be careful that we don’t get blinded from the deep politics by the immediacy of military engagement.
Obviously this is a huge topic and will be for many years!
Thanks for your post,
kind regards
Gareth
gareth_wallace@hotmail.com
Martin Ingram Aka Ian Hurst is a liar.Soldier of Fortune.Mercenary.Only interested in making money.He is a con-man who will sell his lies to anyone who will pay for them.He is a court jester and a clown.
The person who calls himself Martin ingram but is in fact ex Int Corps SSgt Ian Hurst (known as rocky) is a liar of the highest order. His book STEAKNIFE is almost complete fiction, as are his assertions that Martin McGUINNESS was an agent of the state. He is dementedly lying completely about his past service in FRU. He only ever served in sleepy backwaters of the Province and never came face to face with anyone except low level eyes and ears agents. He never ran STEAKNIFE or even met him. In short, his book is a complete fabrication based on god knows what. He endangers the lives of serving and former soldiers as well as civilians with his ridiculous fairy tales. Hopefully he will appear in court at some of the current inquiries and investigations so he can be shown to be the liar he really is.
This message comes from http://www.jackgrantham.blogspot.com/